Chapter 504
Chapter 504
Chapter 504
Deng Xizi's studies were already known throughout the world for being good at finding loopholes, and the words of this litigator with a Zheng accent also insisted on the rationality of the law, and it sounded like there was nothing to refute.
Not far from the audience, Meng Sheng, Xu Ruo and other Mohist figures kneeled on the ground, some nodded in praise, some were deep in thought, and some were gnashing their teeth.
The corners of Xu Ruo's mouth kept twitching, muttering curses to himself, Meng Sheng at the side stretched out his hand and patted Xu Ruo's shoulder lightly, motioning him not to speak.
It's not that Xu Ruo disagreed with the words of the Zheng Guo-accented litigator, but he also recognized the truth in these words, but when did he think this was?Still talking about this shit?
The "National" government of this Fei country has been established for more than a month, but these people talk about it all day long, and they don't know what the immediate priority is.
The nobles are obviously delaying time now, clearly saying that nobles from all fiefdoms can come to the capital to discuss, and that they should select sages according to the division of land, so that they can also become sages to discuss politics together.
But in fact, judging from the news from various sources, the nobles are delaying time to prepare force, and some nobles even visited Qilu and other countries.
Issues such as land, tax rates, and labor that the people are most concerned about remain unresolved.
These sages are arguing all day whether the maximum food price should be limited, whether nobles can be elected as sages to discuss politics together, and whether the policy of the capital city of Fei can be extended to fiefdoms outside the capital...
Even today, because of a profiteer who is hoarding goods, the sages are required to discuss whether it is a crime or not.
Xu Ruo felt that the gnashing of teeth did not lie in the behavior of this profiteer. In fact, he had been in the Mo family for many years, and he supported the judgment of "no crime" for this profiteer.
But he felt that the action and organizational skills of these "sages" were far behind those of the Mohist comrades.
What to do at this time?
What to do at this time is to immediately organize the people in the capital city, and after the harvest is completed, take advantage of the high popularity of the people to send troops directly to the nobles' fiefdoms, and forcefully promote the policy of granting land to the people for redemption in installments.
If you don't agree, it will be a violation of the laws of the country of Fei, take back the fief, and expel the matter.
If it is agreed, it will be implemented quickly, and some talents who are proficient in nine numbers and Tian Fang will be selected to prepare for the best land grant work.
Cattle, horses and seeds for spring plowing; trading and transportation of salt goods; formation of the army, construction of the city wall... these are the urgent tasks at this time.
But now they are wrangling every day, and these urgent matters basically do nothing.
Many people still have illusions, thinking that as long as the interests of the nobles' fiefdoms are not touched, the reforms of people like themselves in the capital will not be questioned and opposed by the nobles.
At that time, in fact, it will be equivalent to the implementation of a law in the capital city of Fei, while the well field etiquette system will still be implemented in the fiefdoms outside the capital city.
Xu Ruo thought to himself, you and the nobles gave lectures, lectures, lectures, lectures... But when the nobles made you do labor and work on the public land, did they ever talk to you?
Some people who only own fields near the capital are thinking about these things around them, only thinking that now that Gong Ziluan has admitted that the palace and public land are allocated to him, then those people outside the capital have nothing to do with him.
Otherwise, the fiefdom nobles will be angered again, and it will not end well at that time. Many people think that the best situation is the autonomy of the capital, and the rest of the nobles' fiefdoms will still implement the old law, or persuade those nobles to implement benevolent governance with benevolence and justice.
Xu Ruo thought to himself, what kind of idiots are these.Self-interest is not so self-interested. Self-interest can also be divided into long-term and short-sighted. How can this be self-interested?This is self-harm.
You don't care about the fiefdoms outside the capital today, how can those people support you when the nobles turn their backs in the future?
A few days ago, I heard that there was going to be a trial today. I thought that these sages would be able to do something serious by taking advantage of today’s events, so I quickly calculated how many people who are proficient in Jiushu Tianfang will be needed to organize the distribution of land before spring plowing, and hurry up to give the nobles the final order. Give them an ultimatum to implement the new law immediately or it will be illegal...
But as a result, until now, I am still doing this painless thing.
Xu Ruo thought to himself, if the decree is made, those who don't abide by it will be punished as illegal. If the nobles don't agree, it will be illegal. Isn't it possible to do such a simple thing?
Since everyone is equal, then rely on the number of people to beat those nobles. You learn from our Mohists and immediately send people to fiefs and villages to publicize these things. It only takes a simple "personal grant of land" to let people there elect you as sages .
But if you don't do it, you still think "reasonably" and want the nobles to participate in the discussion of politics, so as to hope to implement policies in a legitimate way and reform from top to bottom. It's really ridiculous!When the time comes, those elected by the fief must be those nobles. Will you recognize it or not?
It was precisely because the more he thought about it, the more angry Xu Ruo was, gnashing his teeth, wishing he could stand up and scold these people present and tell them what they should do.
However, the Mo family is all about discipline after all, after Meng Sheng pressed him lightly, Xu Ruo could only suppress his anger.
Meng Sheng was not only able to persuade Xu Ruo to be quiet, but he also really had the mentality of a bystander, with a smile on his face, and from time to time, he clapped his hands to show his respect and agreement to those lawyers with a Zheng Guo accent who were still continuing to tell the truth.
This scholar of Deng Xizi's study is not a secret Mohist. This time Meng Sheng came to preside over the overall situation of Fei Country. He already knew the list of some secret Mohist in Fei Country. This person is definitely not.
But what this person said is really similar to what Sishang is making the law.
As early as many years ago, the Mohists had actually begun to discuss these issues, and they also distinguished the "natural law that follows nature and rules the will of heaven";
There are different explanations for King Wu's defeat of Zhou.
The Mohist "is not destiny", but those who think there is destiny think that King Wu's defeat of Zhou is the "destiny".
Is it reasonable for King Wu to defeat Zhou?Mohism naturally thinks it is reasonable, but it cannot be explained by the mysterious "mandate of heaven".
Therefore, it is explained by the natural law that Tianzhi and Dao follow nature, and the natural law itself is a kind of law that "rebels are justified".
Whether it is because the appearance of ironware, oxen, gunpowder is not suitable for the stage of the "promised land", or because the current system makes the nobles are silverfish and their fief interests are unreasonable, these are all unreasonable things introduced by the "law of nature". Reasonable.
However, the current etiquette and law believe that the feudal system and the world system of distinctions between high and low are the law. Therefore, the Mohist deduced from the natural law that the current etiquette and law are not in line with the will of heaven, not in line with Tao, and not in line with nature.
According to the theory developed by the Mohists over the years, Mozi said that I have the will of heaven like a craftsman has the rules. The Mohist law follows the path of natural law. I am convinced that the most perfect "law" can be found through reason, so that everyone can benefit. .
But the Mohists are now in power in Sishang, and they have a strict organizational structure, which leads to a new problem.
For example, the law of Sishang, the murderer dies, this is a written law.
According to the law of nature, killing a person to benefit the world should be done.
Now there is a bad guy, someone who is not from Sishang's violent agency killed him, so should the killer deserve to die?
According to Taoism's "Tao follows nature" and Mohism's "a hundred people and a hundred righteousness in ancient times", the starting points of the two sides are actually very similar, but the way to solve practical problems is that Taoism retreats to the natural state of a small country with few people, and Mohism continues. Go forward and step into the next level, "The World of Paradise".
But on the basis of similar starting points, the differences between Taoism and Mohism are already quite serious on issues such as state and law.
The Mohists recognize that Taoism follows nature and integrates the rules and will of heaven, so it must be admitted that in the ancient times when Taoism followed nature, everyone had reason to use "nature" as the law, and everyone had the right to enforce the law.
If this person violated the "Tao follows nature", then he should deal with it. At that time, in the ancient world of "Tao follows nature", it might really be beautiful.
Judging from Mohism's "Tongyi" chapter after appropriate tampering, the reason for abandoning this beautiful ancient world is that it is the nature of everyone to pursue profit, and this nature leads people to violate the "concurrent" principle. The benefits of people in the concept, so that what Mozi said, "Father, son, and brother are separated because of grievances, and cannot be reconciled; all the people in the world are harmed by water, fire and poison. Even if there is spare power, they cannot work together; Don't divide the money left by beetles; hide the good way, don't teach each other. The world is in chaos. It's like a beast."
Then, in view of the emergence of this situation, people give up part of their own power to achieve a "public power" that transcends everyone. This renounced power includes the law enforcement power of the natural way.
Individuals do not have the power to enforce the law, because when "choosing the virtuous to be the emperor", it is equivalent to giving up the power of law enforcement, turning the power of law enforcement into a kind of public power, so that the interests of the people of the world can be safeguarded.
From this moment on, differences between Mohism and Taoism have emerged.
Mohists believe that the emergence of the state and private ownership is inevitable.
Taoism believes that the emergence of the state and private ownership is accidental.
Mohists believe that there is nothing wrong with the state and the law itself, what is wrong is who owns the state and how the law is formulated.Is there a way to make the law closer to nature with the will of heaven and nature as the guide?
Taoism believes that the state and the law are inherently wrong.Therefore, "Laws prosper, and thieves abound." In this world, we must believe that everyone knows the way of nature, so that everyone has the right to enforce the law, and a small country with few people will bring order to the world.
Mohists believe that the formulation of laws should be based on the way of nature, with the will of heaven as the rules, and then verified one by one.The law should be beneficial to all people in the world, and at the same time protect everyone's "rights" and "interests". Belonging to the way of nature.
Taoism believes that as long as we return to a small country with few people and return to the "natural state" of human beings, there will be no need for written laws, written orders, and various violent institutions in the world. We must believe in the natural sociality and rationality of human beings, and put the public The executive power and legislative power of power are returned to everyone.
Mohists believe that the improvement of the world's sharp tools and skills will increase the total wealth of the world and increase the wealth created by each labor force, so this is progressive.It's just that the system of the world is not in line with the productivity at this time, which has led to the chaos and poverty in the world now.
Taoism believes that the improvement of the world's sharp weapons and skills makes it impossible for the world to return to the state of a small country with few people, which will lead to chaos in the world.Therefore, "There are many sharp weapons, and the country grows faint; there are many tricks, and strange things grow", I have learned that the natural state is the best, but now the world is chaotic, so the best way is to give up these skills and sharp weapons, Return to a natural state.
(End of this chapter)
Deng Xizi's studies were already known throughout the world for being good at finding loopholes, and the words of this litigator with a Zheng accent also insisted on the rationality of the law, and it sounded like there was nothing to refute.
Not far from the audience, Meng Sheng, Xu Ruo and other Mohist figures kneeled on the ground, some nodded in praise, some were deep in thought, and some were gnashing their teeth.
The corners of Xu Ruo's mouth kept twitching, muttering curses to himself, Meng Sheng at the side stretched out his hand and patted Xu Ruo's shoulder lightly, motioning him not to speak.
It's not that Xu Ruo disagreed with the words of the Zheng Guo-accented litigator, but he also recognized the truth in these words, but when did he think this was?Still talking about this shit?
The "National" government of this Fei country has been established for more than a month, but these people talk about it all day long, and they don't know what the immediate priority is.
The nobles are obviously delaying time now, clearly saying that nobles from all fiefdoms can come to the capital to discuss, and that they should select sages according to the division of land, so that they can also become sages to discuss politics together.
But in fact, judging from the news from various sources, the nobles are delaying time to prepare force, and some nobles even visited Qilu and other countries.
Issues such as land, tax rates, and labor that the people are most concerned about remain unresolved.
These sages are arguing all day whether the maximum food price should be limited, whether nobles can be elected as sages to discuss politics together, and whether the policy of the capital city of Fei can be extended to fiefdoms outside the capital...
Even today, because of a profiteer who is hoarding goods, the sages are required to discuss whether it is a crime or not.
Xu Ruo felt that the gnashing of teeth did not lie in the behavior of this profiteer. In fact, he had been in the Mo family for many years, and he supported the judgment of "no crime" for this profiteer.
But he felt that the action and organizational skills of these "sages" were far behind those of the Mohist comrades.
What to do at this time?
What to do at this time is to immediately organize the people in the capital city, and after the harvest is completed, take advantage of the high popularity of the people to send troops directly to the nobles' fiefdoms, and forcefully promote the policy of granting land to the people for redemption in installments.
If you don't agree, it will be a violation of the laws of the country of Fei, take back the fief, and expel the matter.
If it is agreed, it will be implemented quickly, and some talents who are proficient in nine numbers and Tian Fang will be selected to prepare for the best land grant work.
Cattle, horses and seeds for spring plowing; trading and transportation of salt goods; formation of the army, construction of the city wall... these are the urgent tasks at this time.
But now they are wrangling every day, and these urgent matters basically do nothing.
Many people still have illusions, thinking that as long as the interests of the nobles' fiefdoms are not touched, the reforms of people like themselves in the capital will not be questioned and opposed by the nobles.
At that time, in fact, it will be equivalent to the implementation of a law in the capital city of Fei, while the well field etiquette system will still be implemented in the fiefdoms outside the capital city.
Xu Ruo thought to himself, you and the nobles gave lectures, lectures, lectures, lectures... But when the nobles made you do labor and work on the public land, did they ever talk to you?
Some people who only own fields near the capital are thinking about these things around them, only thinking that now that Gong Ziluan has admitted that the palace and public land are allocated to him, then those people outside the capital have nothing to do with him.
Otherwise, the fiefdom nobles will be angered again, and it will not end well at that time. Many people think that the best situation is the autonomy of the capital, and the rest of the nobles' fiefdoms will still implement the old law, or persuade those nobles to implement benevolent governance with benevolence and justice.
Xu Ruo thought to himself, what kind of idiots are these.Self-interest is not so self-interested. Self-interest can also be divided into long-term and short-sighted. How can this be self-interested?This is self-harm.
You don't care about the fiefdoms outside the capital today, how can those people support you when the nobles turn their backs in the future?
A few days ago, I heard that there was going to be a trial today. I thought that these sages would be able to do something serious by taking advantage of today’s events, so I quickly calculated how many people who are proficient in Jiushu Tianfang will be needed to organize the distribution of land before spring plowing, and hurry up to give the nobles the final order. Give them an ultimatum to implement the new law immediately or it will be illegal...
But as a result, until now, I am still doing this painless thing.
Xu Ruo thought to himself, if the decree is made, those who don't abide by it will be punished as illegal. If the nobles don't agree, it will be illegal. Isn't it possible to do such a simple thing?
Since everyone is equal, then rely on the number of people to beat those nobles. You learn from our Mohists and immediately send people to fiefs and villages to publicize these things. It only takes a simple "personal grant of land" to let people there elect you as sages .
But if you don't do it, you still think "reasonably" and want the nobles to participate in the discussion of politics, so as to hope to implement policies in a legitimate way and reform from top to bottom. It's really ridiculous!When the time comes, those elected by the fief must be those nobles. Will you recognize it or not?
It was precisely because the more he thought about it, the more angry Xu Ruo was, gnashing his teeth, wishing he could stand up and scold these people present and tell them what they should do.
However, the Mo family is all about discipline after all, after Meng Sheng pressed him lightly, Xu Ruo could only suppress his anger.
Meng Sheng was not only able to persuade Xu Ruo to be quiet, but he also really had the mentality of a bystander, with a smile on his face, and from time to time, he clapped his hands to show his respect and agreement to those lawyers with a Zheng Guo accent who were still continuing to tell the truth.
This scholar of Deng Xizi's study is not a secret Mohist. This time Meng Sheng came to preside over the overall situation of Fei Country. He already knew the list of some secret Mohist in Fei Country. This person is definitely not.
But what this person said is really similar to what Sishang is making the law.
As early as many years ago, the Mohists had actually begun to discuss these issues, and they also distinguished the "natural law that follows nature and rules the will of heaven";
There are different explanations for King Wu's defeat of Zhou.
The Mohist "is not destiny", but those who think there is destiny think that King Wu's defeat of Zhou is the "destiny".
Is it reasonable for King Wu to defeat Zhou?Mohism naturally thinks it is reasonable, but it cannot be explained by the mysterious "mandate of heaven".
Therefore, it is explained by the natural law that Tianzhi and Dao follow nature, and the natural law itself is a kind of law that "rebels are justified".
Whether it is because the appearance of ironware, oxen, gunpowder is not suitable for the stage of the "promised land", or because the current system makes the nobles are silverfish and their fief interests are unreasonable, these are all unreasonable things introduced by the "law of nature". Reasonable.
However, the current etiquette and law believe that the feudal system and the world system of distinctions between high and low are the law. Therefore, the Mohist deduced from the natural law that the current etiquette and law are not in line with the will of heaven, not in line with Tao, and not in line with nature.
According to the theory developed by the Mohists over the years, Mozi said that I have the will of heaven like a craftsman has the rules. The Mohist law follows the path of natural law. I am convinced that the most perfect "law" can be found through reason, so that everyone can benefit. .
But the Mohists are now in power in Sishang, and they have a strict organizational structure, which leads to a new problem.
For example, the law of Sishang, the murderer dies, this is a written law.
According to the law of nature, killing a person to benefit the world should be done.
Now there is a bad guy, someone who is not from Sishang's violent agency killed him, so should the killer deserve to die?
According to Taoism's "Tao follows nature" and Mohism's "a hundred people and a hundred righteousness in ancient times", the starting points of the two sides are actually very similar, but the way to solve practical problems is that Taoism retreats to the natural state of a small country with few people, and Mohism continues. Go forward and step into the next level, "The World of Paradise".
But on the basis of similar starting points, the differences between Taoism and Mohism are already quite serious on issues such as state and law.
The Mohists recognize that Taoism follows nature and integrates the rules and will of heaven, so it must be admitted that in the ancient times when Taoism followed nature, everyone had reason to use "nature" as the law, and everyone had the right to enforce the law.
If this person violated the "Tao follows nature", then he should deal with it. At that time, in the ancient world of "Tao follows nature", it might really be beautiful.
Judging from Mohism's "Tongyi" chapter after appropriate tampering, the reason for abandoning this beautiful ancient world is that it is the nature of everyone to pursue profit, and this nature leads people to violate the "concurrent" principle. The benefits of people in the concept, so that what Mozi said, "Father, son, and brother are separated because of grievances, and cannot be reconciled; all the people in the world are harmed by water, fire and poison. Even if there is spare power, they cannot work together; Don't divide the money left by beetles; hide the good way, don't teach each other. The world is in chaos. It's like a beast."
Then, in view of the emergence of this situation, people give up part of their own power to achieve a "public power" that transcends everyone. This renounced power includes the law enforcement power of the natural way.
Individuals do not have the power to enforce the law, because when "choosing the virtuous to be the emperor", it is equivalent to giving up the power of law enforcement, turning the power of law enforcement into a kind of public power, so that the interests of the people of the world can be safeguarded.
From this moment on, differences between Mohism and Taoism have emerged.
Mohists believe that the emergence of the state and private ownership is inevitable.
Taoism believes that the emergence of the state and private ownership is accidental.
Mohists believe that there is nothing wrong with the state and the law itself, what is wrong is who owns the state and how the law is formulated.Is there a way to make the law closer to nature with the will of heaven and nature as the guide?
Taoism believes that the state and the law are inherently wrong.Therefore, "Laws prosper, and thieves abound." In this world, we must believe that everyone knows the way of nature, so that everyone has the right to enforce the law, and a small country with few people will bring order to the world.
Mohists believe that the formulation of laws should be based on the way of nature, with the will of heaven as the rules, and then verified one by one.The law should be beneficial to all people in the world, and at the same time protect everyone's "rights" and "interests". Belonging to the way of nature.
Taoism believes that as long as we return to a small country with few people and return to the "natural state" of human beings, there will be no need for written laws, written orders, and various violent institutions in the world. We must believe in the natural sociality and rationality of human beings, and put the public The executive power and legislative power of power are returned to everyone.
Mohists believe that the improvement of the world's sharp tools and skills will increase the total wealth of the world and increase the wealth created by each labor force, so this is progressive.It's just that the system of the world is not in line with the productivity at this time, which has led to the chaos and poverty in the world now.
Taoism believes that the improvement of the world's sharp weapons and skills makes it impossible for the world to return to the state of a small country with few people, which will lead to chaos in the world.Therefore, "There are many sharp weapons, and the country grows faint; there are many tricks, and strange things grow", I have learned that the natural state is the best, but now the world is chaotic, so the best way is to give up these skills and sharp weapons, Return to a natural state.
(End of this chapter)