Chapter 1258
Market Competition
Chapter 1258 Market Competition
Roger had already planned whether to retaliate against Johor and the United Kingdom. The two are eager to encourage Haihan to send troops at the moment, and their respective goals have long been revealed. Only Roger can calm down their senselessness. dispute.So both of them stopped and turned to look at Roger to hear what kind of plans he had.
"Our country's attitude towards war has always been very cautious, and we will not start a war easily. No matter who the opponent is, we will first consider the purpose of the war. The war with Britain and Johor is to prevent them from invading Sing Tao. Judging from the current results Seeing that we have successfully achieved our desired goal, continuing to fight will not bring any real benefits to our country, and it is far from enough to pay for the military expenditure we have to pay for it. So..."
Roger paused here, looked at the faces of the two, and then continued: "...It is not cost-effective for our country to continue the war. We are going to reconcile with each other. Of course, the premise is that they must admit their fail, and compensate our country for its losses during the war."
The two envoys were naturally disappointed after hearing this. The purpose of their coming to Xingdao was not to hear that the final outcome of this war would be peace talks. If Haihan did not continue the fight, they would have no reason to send troops to intervene. Their respective plans will also come to nothing.
But before they raised objections, Roger announced another thing they could not accept: "In addition, after the peace talks with the British East India Company are over, our country may allow British merchant ships to dock at Haihan Port for trade, and accept Our country’s asylum. As a trading partner, I have the responsibility to inform you of this decision in advance, and I hope your country can give you understanding and support.”
"NO!" Ricardo and Philip immediately expressed their attitude to Roger with one voice.For them, this is no longer a level of disappointment, but a situation that must be tried to prevent it from happening.The British's open entry means that they will have a strong competitor from now on, and this opponent may be protected by Haihan, which makes them even more afraid of using force to solve it. It can be called bad news.
"Your country must be aware of the harm that this irresponsible approach will bring! The British are not good men and women. This can be seen from their despicable act of undeclared war. Please don't be fooled Bewitched by their rhetoric, we must not let them in!" Philip, who made a special trip to Xingdao twice for this matter, immediately expressed his objection.If Haihan was complicit in this matter with the British, most of his previous work would be in vain.
And this time the Portuguese also stood on the same front as his old opponent very rarely: "The entry of the British will cause direct damage to the interests of our country. As a traditional partner of Haihan, I hope to reconsider this decision. Don't hurt the long-standing friendship between the two countries because of a momentary impulse!"
"The matter is not as serious as you think." Roger had long expected that the attitudes of the two families would be very fierce, and he did not panic because of their protests. He explained unhurriedly: "Even if we reach an agreement with the British, There will also be strict restrictions on the entry of British ships for a long time to ensure that they do not disturb the existing tranquility of the region."
"Your Excellency, with all due respect, the British are not qualified trading partners!" Ricardo emphasized again: "Their colonial business items are mainly tobacco and cotton, but we can also supply these commodities to your country in sufficient quantities. !"
"But with one more supplier, the quality of the goods will be better guaranteed, won't it?" Roger immediately responded to Ricardo's question: "And as far as I know, the British wool industry is very developed , the industrial center of Europa should be in England."
The center of the wool industry in Europe has changed several times in history. In the 13th century, it was in Flanders, Belgium, but this place itself does not produce wool, as long as raw materials are imported from England and Spain for production.By the 14th century, the industrial center of the wool industry was transferred to Florence, Italy, but because of the serious polarization between the rich and the poor and class struggles in the process of rapid production expansion here, the security situation became turbulent. By the 15th century , the industrial center was transferred to the UK.
Unlike Flanders and Florence, the British wool industry was quickly transferred to the countryside, and taking advantage of the advantages of water conservancy that the former did not have, waterwheels were introduced into the processing process to replace manpower, which greatly reduced production costs and improved production efficiency. be greatly improved.From the beginning of the 15th century until 300 years later, the British wool industry has always been in a leading position in Europe.
After Haihan's colony and control area gradually extended to the north, Haihan's demand for cotton and wool textiles has also increased year by year, and due to the impact of successive years of turmoil in the north of Daming, the wool products that Haihan can purchase from Daming are extremely limited, and The price is indeed high.However, under Haihan’s rule, there was no suitable area to breed sheep or goats in large quantities, and its own production capacity was far from keeping up with the growth in demand, so the contradiction between supply and demand could only be resolved through imports.
Both Portugal and the Netherlands can provide a certain amount of wool product resources, but they are not the country of origin. The wool products sold to Haihan are also bought from the UK, and then resold to Haihan to earn the difference.Naturally, there is nothing wrong with this kind of business model, especially the Dutch, who are known as sea coachmen, are engaged in this kind of business of buying and selling, and they also make money from Hai Han in this kind of transaction.
Although the reason why Haihan intends to let the British import is not just wool products, it is indeed one of the reasons for this decision.Haihan does not want the trade between the East and the West to be monopolized by Portugal and the Netherlands, so he needs to expand the scope of trade objects to reduce the cost and risk of imported goods.
There are not many European countries entering the Far East. Spain was originally on the list of candidates. The relationship between Haihan and Spain has never been reconciled. Although wars did not continue in the future, this Liangzi will not pass by with the passage of time. As far as automatic understanding is concerned, Haihan is busy expanding the route, and has no intention of crossing to find the bad luck of the Spaniards.But both sides understand in their hearts that one mountain cannot accommodate two tigers, and sooner or later they will still have a showdown.
The expansion speed of France, another European maritime power, in the Far East was far behind these competitors. Historically, the French only formally established the French East India Company in 1664, but the nature of its operations was quite different from that of other countries.The activities of the company were overseen by a magistrate appointed by the king, and the directors of the company were all court favourites, dignitaries, not merchants.Even the company's operating funds are mostly contributed by the royal family, while the proportion of shares subscribed by businessmen is extremely limited.This kind of kingship company was subject to many restrictions in terms of operation, and its competitiveness was far inferior to that of its peers. By the middle of the 18th century, its trade volume with India was only half that of the British East India Company. disappeared.
So the only choice left for Haihan is the United Kingdom.Since Britain is not formally establishing a stronghold, the executive committee originally planned to wait for a suitable opportunity to establish diplomatic relations with Britain, but it did not expect that the British would kill themselves and send them to Haihan, giving Haihan a huge excuse.Since he had the opportunity to take the absolute initiative in diplomatic negotiations, Haihan naturally wanted to make full use of this opportunity.
The opposition from Portugal and the Netherlands was within Haihan's expectation. After all, after Britain entered the region, the interests of these two countries would be most affected.However, the Executive Committee and Roger also expected that the opposition of the two countries would only be verbal, because they could neither use force against Haihan, nor could they completely break away from the establishment and dominance of Haihan in this area. trade system.If you want to turn against Haihan, the losses caused by this will be far greater than the impact that the British entry can cause.
It was also because of this that Roger generously showed them the results of this battle, and then informed Haihan of his basic attitude towards this matter.They can also take advantage of their arrival to put more pressure on the British officer Hogg to force the other party to accept the "peace agreement" proposed by Roger.
Regarding Roger's response, Ricardo was also a little unexpected. He didn't expect that this Haihan officer also knew about the wool industry in Europe. At this time, it would be too superfluous to make any excuses on this, so he can only change the topic now. Dao: "The various commodities we provide for Haihan are all the best grades in the European market. Of course, the prices cannot be generalized with ordinary goods, but don't question our trade relationship because of this. Besides, our country has always been Many of the goods imported by Ming Kingdom and Annan Kingdom are purchased through Haihan's trading firm, and this does not hinder our cooperation."
Although Ricardo spoke well, in fact, both parties are very clear that the reason why Portugal wants to purchase through Haihan is that they cannot bypass the mountain of Haihan.Haihan has some very large influence in the foreign trade system of Ming Dynasty and Annan. It can be said that it is not a monopoly but it is better than a monopoly. It can completely determine the local trade qualifications of countries outside the region like Portugal.Even if Portugal knew that this trade method would cost Haihan the price difference, in order to maintain the stability of the trade relationship, it could only accept this arrangement.Fortunately, after the goods from the East are shipped to Europe, the profits are quite lucrative, and the cost of such purchases can be directly passed on to the final buyer, and the impact on Portugal, the middleman, is relatively limited.
But Haihan's current situation is different. The emergence of the British undoubtedly provided a new supply channel.If the two countries finally reached the agreement advocated by Roger, some commodities produced in the UK would be sent to Haihan at a lower transaction price.Although the shipping industries in Portugal and the Netherlands are well-developed, they do not have an advantage in the price of these commodities after all, and they can only hand over the relevant profits to others.
Roger continued: "I know that the two of you are very afraid of the entry of the UK, but for us Haihan, this is just the introduction of a trading partner. There is no military alliance, no exclusive trade agreement, and no Worrying about security issues. The only thing that will change is that you may have one more competitor in the trade field in this region from now on. Moreover, this cooperation is only a concept at present, and specific negotiations may take a long time to come. Only then will there be results, I don't think you two need to be too nervous."
Roger's words of consolation didn't have much effect, and it was impossible for Ricardo and Philip to relax because of his words.But they also understand that it is extremely difficult to persuade Roger to give up this plan at the moment, and they can only try to solve it separately.They wanted to attack Tan Juren immediately, but they heard Tan Juren say lightly, "This matter is based on Roger's opinion", which is really unthinkable.
Tan Juren had communicated with Roger beforehand, and knew the plan he discussed with the executive committee.In fact, Tan Juren does not agree with the peace talks with the UK. He believes that the existing measures have not really played a role in punishing the UK for its audacity, and the so-called compensation and ransom may also slow down in future bilateral negotiations. Slowly be cut off by the opponent a little bit.Although the establishment of trade relations may really bring some benefits to Haihan, Tan Juren simply feels uncomfortable, and even prefers the opinions of the Portuguese and Dutch envoys, and continues to pursue the invaders, even if the British cannot be suppressed for the time being. People's strongholds in the Indian peninsula, at least they must clarify their attitude towards continuing to carry out military strikes against them.
However, Roger thinks that his view is not objective enough, and he analyzes the causes.He believes that in Tan Juren's subconscious, he still regards Britain as the instigator of the war in the previous time and space, and has a hatred for it beyond reason.But in today's time and space, Haihan has just come into contact with the opponent. Although the two sides have a record of fighting, Haihan not only did not suffer losses, but also took the initiative through the war. We should make full use of this favorable situation to seek more The income is right, not blindly fighting and killing.At that time, the fight with the British will not end, and the clapping and applause must be guys like Portugal and the Netherlands who are afraid of chaos in the world.
Although Tan Juren agrees with Roger's analysis, he still feels that he cannot overcome this hurdle ideologically.In the end, Roger had to give him a rather targeted dose of medicine: "I know you want to inflict revenge on the British, but if you think about it, we have dealt a heavy blow to them through war now, and the next thing is Coercing them to pay reparations and signing unequal treaties, isn’t this just retaliating against the historical process you know?”
Tan Juyi thought that although this was unreasonable, he felt much better psychologically, and finally accepted Roger's arrangement.
(End of this chapter)
Roger had already planned whether to retaliate against Johor and the United Kingdom. The two are eager to encourage Haihan to send troops at the moment, and their respective goals have long been revealed. Only Roger can calm down their senselessness. dispute.So both of them stopped and turned to look at Roger to hear what kind of plans he had.
"Our country's attitude towards war has always been very cautious, and we will not start a war easily. No matter who the opponent is, we will first consider the purpose of the war. The war with Britain and Johor is to prevent them from invading Sing Tao. Judging from the current results Seeing that we have successfully achieved our desired goal, continuing to fight will not bring any real benefits to our country, and it is far from enough to pay for the military expenditure we have to pay for it. So..."
Roger paused here, looked at the faces of the two, and then continued: "...It is not cost-effective for our country to continue the war. We are going to reconcile with each other. Of course, the premise is that they must admit their fail, and compensate our country for its losses during the war."
The two envoys were naturally disappointed after hearing this. The purpose of their coming to Xingdao was not to hear that the final outcome of this war would be peace talks. If Haihan did not continue the fight, they would have no reason to send troops to intervene. Their respective plans will also come to nothing.
But before they raised objections, Roger announced another thing they could not accept: "In addition, after the peace talks with the British East India Company are over, our country may allow British merchant ships to dock at Haihan Port for trade, and accept Our country’s asylum. As a trading partner, I have the responsibility to inform you of this decision in advance, and I hope your country can give you understanding and support.”
"NO!" Ricardo and Philip immediately expressed their attitude to Roger with one voice.For them, this is no longer a level of disappointment, but a situation that must be tried to prevent it from happening.The British's open entry means that they will have a strong competitor from now on, and this opponent may be protected by Haihan, which makes them even more afraid of using force to solve it. It can be called bad news.
"Your country must be aware of the harm that this irresponsible approach will bring! The British are not good men and women. This can be seen from their despicable act of undeclared war. Please don't be fooled Bewitched by their rhetoric, we must not let them in!" Philip, who made a special trip to Xingdao twice for this matter, immediately expressed his objection.If Haihan was complicit in this matter with the British, most of his previous work would be in vain.
And this time the Portuguese also stood on the same front as his old opponent very rarely: "The entry of the British will cause direct damage to the interests of our country. As a traditional partner of Haihan, I hope to reconsider this decision. Don't hurt the long-standing friendship between the two countries because of a momentary impulse!"
"The matter is not as serious as you think." Roger had long expected that the attitudes of the two families would be very fierce, and he did not panic because of their protests. He explained unhurriedly: "Even if we reach an agreement with the British, There will also be strict restrictions on the entry of British ships for a long time to ensure that they do not disturb the existing tranquility of the region."
"Your Excellency, with all due respect, the British are not qualified trading partners!" Ricardo emphasized again: "Their colonial business items are mainly tobacco and cotton, but we can also supply these commodities to your country in sufficient quantities. !"
"But with one more supplier, the quality of the goods will be better guaranteed, won't it?" Roger immediately responded to Ricardo's question: "And as far as I know, the British wool industry is very developed , the industrial center of Europa should be in England."
The center of the wool industry in Europe has changed several times in history. In the 13th century, it was in Flanders, Belgium, but this place itself does not produce wool, as long as raw materials are imported from England and Spain for production.By the 14th century, the industrial center of the wool industry was transferred to Florence, Italy, but because of the serious polarization between the rich and the poor and class struggles in the process of rapid production expansion here, the security situation became turbulent. By the 15th century , the industrial center was transferred to the UK.
Unlike Flanders and Florence, the British wool industry was quickly transferred to the countryside, and taking advantage of the advantages of water conservancy that the former did not have, waterwheels were introduced into the processing process to replace manpower, which greatly reduced production costs and improved production efficiency. be greatly improved.From the beginning of the 15th century until 300 years later, the British wool industry has always been in a leading position in Europe.
After Haihan's colony and control area gradually extended to the north, Haihan's demand for cotton and wool textiles has also increased year by year, and due to the impact of successive years of turmoil in the north of Daming, the wool products that Haihan can purchase from Daming are extremely limited, and The price is indeed high.However, under Haihan’s rule, there was no suitable area to breed sheep or goats in large quantities, and its own production capacity was far from keeping up with the growth in demand, so the contradiction between supply and demand could only be resolved through imports.
Both Portugal and the Netherlands can provide a certain amount of wool product resources, but they are not the country of origin. The wool products sold to Haihan are also bought from the UK, and then resold to Haihan to earn the difference.Naturally, there is nothing wrong with this kind of business model, especially the Dutch, who are known as sea coachmen, are engaged in this kind of business of buying and selling, and they also make money from Hai Han in this kind of transaction.
Although the reason why Haihan intends to let the British import is not just wool products, it is indeed one of the reasons for this decision.Haihan does not want the trade between the East and the West to be monopolized by Portugal and the Netherlands, so he needs to expand the scope of trade objects to reduce the cost and risk of imported goods.
There are not many European countries entering the Far East. Spain was originally on the list of candidates. The relationship between Haihan and Spain has never been reconciled. Although wars did not continue in the future, this Liangzi will not pass by with the passage of time. As far as automatic understanding is concerned, Haihan is busy expanding the route, and has no intention of crossing to find the bad luck of the Spaniards.But both sides understand in their hearts that one mountain cannot accommodate two tigers, and sooner or later they will still have a showdown.
The expansion speed of France, another European maritime power, in the Far East was far behind these competitors. Historically, the French only formally established the French East India Company in 1664, but the nature of its operations was quite different from that of other countries.The activities of the company were overseen by a magistrate appointed by the king, and the directors of the company were all court favourites, dignitaries, not merchants.Even the company's operating funds are mostly contributed by the royal family, while the proportion of shares subscribed by businessmen is extremely limited.This kind of kingship company was subject to many restrictions in terms of operation, and its competitiveness was far inferior to that of its peers. By the middle of the 18th century, its trade volume with India was only half that of the British East India Company. disappeared.
So the only choice left for Haihan is the United Kingdom.Since Britain is not formally establishing a stronghold, the executive committee originally planned to wait for a suitable opportunity to establish diplomatic relations with Britain, but it did not expect that the British would kill themselves and send them to Haihan, giving Haihan a huge excuse.Since he had the opportunity to take the absolute initiative in diplomatic negotiations, Haihan naturally wanted to make full use of this opportunity.
The opposition from Portugal and the Netherlands was within Haihan's expectation. After all, after Britain entered the region, the interests of these two countries would be most affected.However, the Executive Committee and Roger also expected that the opposition of the two countries would only be verbal, because they could neither use force against Haihan, nor could they completely break away from the establishment and dominance of Haihan in this area. trade system.If you want to turn against Haihan, the losses caused by this will be far greater than the impact that the British entry can cause.
It was also because of this that Roger generously showed them the results of this battle, and then informed Haihan of his basic attitude towards this matter.They can also take advantage of their arrival to put more pressure on the British officer Hogg to force the other party to accept the "peace agreement" proposed by Roger.
Regarding Roger's response, Ricardo was also a little unexpected. He didn't expect that this Haihan officer also knew about the wool industry in Europe. At this time, it would be too superfluous to make any excuses on this, so he can only change the topic now. Dao: "The various commodities we provide for Haihan are all the best grades in the European market. Of course, the prices cannot be generalized with ordinary goods, but don't question our trade relationship because of this. Besides, our country has always been Many of the goods imported by Ming Kingdom and Annan Kingdom are purchased through Haihan's trading firm, and this does not hinder our cooperation."
Although Ricardo spoke well, in fact, both parties are very clear that the reason why Portugal wants to purchase through Haihan is that they cannot bypass the mountain of Haihan.Haihan has some very large influence in the foreign trade system of Ming Dynasty and Annan. It can be said that it is not a monopoly but it is better than a monopoly. It can completely determine the local trade qualifications of countries outside the region like Portugal.Even if Portugal knew that this trade method would cost Haihan the price difference, in order to maintain the stability of the trade relationship, it could only accept this arrangement.Fortunately, after the goods from the East are shipped to Europe, the profits are quite lucrative, and the cost of such purchases can be directly passed on to the final buyer, and the impact on Portugal, the middleman, is relatively limited.
But Haihan's current situation is different. The emergence of the British undoubtedly provided a new supply channel.If the two countries finally reached the agreement advocated by Roger, some commodities produced in the UK would be sent to Haihan at a lower transaction price.Although the shipping industries in Portugal and the Netherlands are well-developed, they do not have an advantage in the price of these commodities after all, and they can only hand over the relevant profits to others.
Roger continued: "I know that the two of you are very afraid of the entry of the UK, but for us Haihan, this is just the introduction of a trading partner. There is no military alliance, no exclusive trade agreement, and no Worrying about security issues. The only thing that will change is that you may have one more competitor in the trade field in this region from now on. Moreover, this cooperation is only a concept at present, and specific negotiations may take a long time to come. Only then will there be results, I don't think you two need to be too nervous."
Roger's words of consolation didn't have much effect, and it was impossible for Ricardo and Philip to relax because of his words.But they also understand that it is extremely difficult to persuade Roger to give up this plan at the moment, and they can only try to solve it separately.They wanted to attack Tan Juren immediately, but they heard Tan Juren say lightly, "This matter is based on Roger's opinion", which is really unthinkable.
Tan Juren had communicated with Roger beforehand, and knew the plan he discussed with the executive committee.In fact, Tan Juren does not agree with the peace talks with the UK. He believes that the existing measures have not really played a role in punishing the UK for its audacity, and the so-called compensation and ransom may also slow down in future bilateral negotiations. Slowly be cut off by the opponent a little bit.Although the establishment of trade relations may really bring some benefits to Haihan, Tan Juren simply feels uncomfortable, and even prefers the opinions of the Portuguese and Dutch envoys, and continues to pursue the invaders, even if the British cannot be suppressed for the time being. People's strongholds in the Indian peninsula, at least they must clarify their attitude towards continuing to carry out military strikes against them.
However, Roger thinks that his view is not objective enough, and he analyzes the causes.He believes that in Tan Juren's subconscious, he still regards Britain as the instigator of the war in the previous time and space, and has a hatred for it beyond reason.But in today's time and space, Haihan has just come into contact with the opponent. Although the two sides have a record of fighting, Haihan not only did not suffer losses, but also took the initiative through the war. We should make full use of this favorable situation to seek more The income is right, not blindly fighting and killing.At that time, the fight with the British will not end, and the clapping and applause must be guys like Portugal and the Netherlands who are afraid of chaos in the world.
Although Tan Juren agrees with Roger's analysis, he still feels that he cannot overcome this hurdle ideologically.In the end, Roger had to give him a rather targeted dose of medicine: "I know you want to inflict revenge on the British, but if you think about it, we have dealt a heavy blow to them through war now, and the next thing is Coercing them to pay reparations and signing unequal treaties, isn’t this just retaliating against the historical process you know?”
Tan Juyi thought that although this was unreasonable, he felt much better psychologically, and finally accepted Roger's arrangement.
(End of this chapter)