Chapter 1563
Diplomatic Rhetoric
Chapter 1563 Diplomatic Rhetoric
Su Keyi was worried that Ning Qi was just bluffing himself with words, and then let the Matalan mission sneak into Chen Cang and quietly sign the military purchase contract.At that time, Batavia will be held accountable, regardless of how difficult his operation in Sanya is, this blame must be pinned on him.Seeing that he couldn't get a single word from Ning Qi, Su Keyi could only try to find Tao Donglai.
Of course, as the main person in charge of the Haihan Executive Committee, Tao Donglai doesn't always see him whenever he wants. If there is anything outside that can't be solved, Tao Donglai will be called to him, even if he has 48 people a day. Hours are not enough.Especially for foreign-related meetings, it is necessary to submit an application through the diplomatic department first, and make an appointment and schedule.
Ning Qi responded: "Mr. Su, it's okay for you to see Chairman Tao, but you still have to follow the rules. If you need it, I can arrange someone to register for you right away, but I can't tell you when you can see him. You promised."
Ning Qi's words made Su Keyi calm down from his excitement, and he immediately realized that he had indeed made a mistake.Tao Donglai is almost equivalent to the king of a country in Haihan. As a foreigner, how can he see it as soon as he says he sees it.If you don't follow the diplomatic procedure, the other party will naturally have a good reason to reject you, let alone talk about the arms business, I'm afraid it's hard to offend Haihan's senior management.
Su Keyi took a deep breath to calm down the unhappiness in his heart, and said to Ning Qi in as calm a tone as possible: "Minister Ning, I lost my temper just now, and I hope you don't mind. It's really because this matter is related to my East India Company. The fate of the future, since I have the news, I must do my best. Minister Ning should also be very clear about the grievances between Matalan and our side. Although they failed to attack the city of Batavia back then, but His wolfish ambitions have never given up looking for opportunities to continue the war. If your country sells military weapons and equipment to him, it is tantamount to helping the tyrant to provoke a war. I know that Minister Ning has always advocated peace, so you can't just sit idly by!"
Ning Qi thought in his heart that you might be too young to talk about these big truths with me, and a verbal fight is not such a simple matter.The pacifism advocated by Ning Qi has undergone continuous evolution in the past few years, and it is no longer the original attitude of abusing good people.The so-called peace is only for Haihan himself. What he advocates is to try to avoid resorting to war to resolve territorial or trade disputes, but there is a premise that one of the participants in the war is Haihan. If Haihan does not need to participate in the war, Then he wouldn't care whether it was a cow hitting a dead horse or a horse kicking a dead cow outside.
To put it bluntly, if the East India Company goes to war with Matalan, from Haihan's point of view, it will definitely be happy. After the strength of the two countries is weakened by the war, Haihan can naturally use many means Make them more dependent on themselves in the field of trade.Wars in this era often slow down the development of countries in the region. Even the victors need a long time to digest the fruits of victory and heal their own injuries. No matter who wins or loses in the two countries, Haihan, an outsider, will definitely become a vested interest.Su Keyi's heart-to-heart persuasion has no effect on Ning Qi.
Of course, as a qualified diplomat, Ning Qi will still cooperate and act: "Mr. Su is exactly what I want to express just now. From the perspective of our country, of course I can't bear to see the two of you explode again. War, if this kind of incident can be avoided, our country will definitely handle it properly. So please also trust us, Mr. Su, things are not going in the direction you expected, and everything can be resolved through normal channels of communication.”
Su Keyi was skeptical when he heard it, and always felt that these words were just Haihan's usual diplomatic rhetoric.The Haihan people also said that they would treat Portugal and the Netherlands fairly and treat them equally, but what is the truth?Portuguese merchant ships have been allowed to enter the northern waters, but Dutch merchant ships are still expressly prohibited from entering this waters.Moreover, Su Keyi also knew that the Portuguese secretly bought a lot of artillery from Haihan and shipped them back to Europe, but the sale of these heavy weapons to the Netherlands was completely prohibited.It is not a day or two since Haihan treats the East India Company differently. Su Keyi does not believe that they will change their position on the matter of Mata Ram and side with the East India Company.
Of course, this kind of thinking cannot be expressed directly, so Su Keyi made a detour and said: "Of course I can trust the reputation of your country, but I certainly can't trust the Matalan people. If they buy arms from your country, The first thing to do after returning home is to start a war. I hope that your country can use an open method so that we can confirm that your country will not sell weapons to the Matalan people."
"An open method?" Ning Qi raised his eyebrows. It was obvious that Su Keyi still refused to give up, but he only settled for the next best thing, asking Haihan to refuse the Matalan people's request for weapons and equipment.However, if Haihan issued an announcement through official channels to reject the Matalan people, this may affect Haihan's future arms business.
"I think Mr. Su should go back and wait for the news. If the Matalan people really apply for arms procurement from our country, then we will definitely carefully consider the impact on the East India Company." Ning Qi refused. If we continue to entangle with Su Keyi, and engage in such time-wasting verbal battles, we simply serve tea to see off the guests.
Although Su Keyi spoke dryly, he hardly played any role here in Ningqi, and he couldn't think of any other way at the moment. He could only use a dead horse as a living horse doctor, expressing that he would seek to see Tao Donglai through diplomatic channels.After going around in a circle and coming back, this is the only way to see a glimmer of hope.
Ning Qi nodded in response, sent Su Keyi out of the office, then called Tao Donglai, explained to him what he had just discussed with Su Keyi, and finally asked Tao Donglai for instructions: "What do you think about this matter? "
Tao Donglai said: "The Dutch can't afford to lose. If they are attacked by the Matalan people again, they may not be as lucky as before. The situation of the Matalan country is a little bit better, at least the Dutch There is no ability to pose a fundamental threat to this country now. Once war breaks out, the East India Company must only take a defensive position. If the Mata Blue Army can receive military aid from our country, the chances of breaking through Batavia City are better than It was much bigger last time."
Ning Qi was also a little puzzled when he heard this: "Old Tao, what do you mean, we should simply support the Matalan Kingdom and let them send troops to attack Batavia and destroy the East India Company?"
"It's not to destroy them, but to weaken them." Tao Donglai explained on the phone: "If there is no Dutch, then our connection with the Western world will only be left with the Portuguese family. This is like putting eggs in the same basket. It’s just as dangerous as there. So the presence of the Dutch in the Far East is still useful to us, as long as they bleed every two or three years.”
Ning Qi already understood Tao Donglai's plan when he heard this: "That is to cancel the embargo on the sale of weapons, and sell both sides?"
"You have to be a bit skilled in selling this. If you do it well, you have to say thank you to both of these two companies after they are sold out. I discussed a general framework with Lao Bai before, but Lao Bai still has a few days to complete the plan." Come back, why don't you take his place first and organize related matters first?" Tao Donglai gave Ning Qi a suggestion on the phone, but it seemed a bit unreliable to Ning Qi.
"Why do I feel that you have planned it long ago, and just waited for these two families to come to your door?" Ning Qi faintly smelled the smell of conspiracy.If he hadn't heard the Matalan man's request for military purchases in person, he would almost have thought that Haihan Military Industry had already negotiated the deal with the Matalan man in advance.
Tao Donglai replied: "This is not premeditated. The Haihan Ordnance Industry in charge of Bai Kesi is engaged in the export of arms. Of course, he has to think about how to sell weapons to those customers who are in urgent need without threatening Haihan. You Don’t forget, Matalam used to buy weapons from us. It was only after the Dutch made a big fuss that they suspended this business. So how to sell arms to these two companies is actually not new. As for the topic, Beks has been thinking about it for a long time, just waiting for the right time."
Only then did Ning Qi recall that between the end of the Batavia War in 1632 and the establishment of the South China Sea Trade Union at the end of 1633, Haihan had indeed sold hundreds of Cannons and ammunition.Although these cannons are only the oldest cast iron cannons, for the Matalan people who have relatively backward weaponry and almost no heavy long-range weapons, these cannons are no different from magic weapons.And apart from Haihan, no other country is willing to sell this weapon to them.Therefore, although the prices of these artillery pieces are extremely high, the Matalan people still think that they have made money in the transaction.
However, after the establishment of the South China Sea Trade Union, the East India Company asked Haihan not to sell arms to Mata Lan, and also signed the supplementary agreement mentioned by Su Keyi before, so as to ensure that the East India Company's force can be used in the area around Java. maintain a dominant position for a long time.
Of course, the so-called dominant position of the East India Company is only at sea. The Dutch armed merchant ships are comparable to the best warships in Matalam in terms of combat effectiveness. The blue country only needs to rely on its superiority in military strength to make the East India Company complain.
So this time the Matalan mission came to Sanya, and the main purchase target was Haihan's warship.Mata Lan Sultan believes that as long as the country's maritime armed forces can become strong enough, then Batavia City will not have a second chance for luck.The "Exploration Class" and "Exploration Class" warships with relatively small tonnage have become the equipment that the Matalan people tried to purchase this time.
Although the Haihan Navy's combat ships have always been built by the Shengli Port Shipyard, there are more than one shipyard in Sanya that can manufacture "exploration-class" sailboats. The shipyards in Danzhou, Zhoushan, and even Annan Heitu Port are all Can build this kind of warship.Therefore, the Matalan people thought that this kind of warship was no longer a scarce commodity, so they applied to Haihan for the purchase.
Since Matalan is far away from Hainan Island, they don't know much about Haihan's arms sales methods, but their purpose of buying weapons and equipment is undisguised, that is, to compete with the Dutch.For Hai Han, this situation is equivalent to being taken advantage of in front of him, and he also took the initiative to pass the stick to his hand, it is difficult not to hit him with a stick.
Tao Donglai had been thinking about how to maximize Haihan's benefits, and Su Keyi's active appearance undoubtedly provided him with a solution to the problem.Since the Dutch are also very concerned about this, let these two companies compete head-on.
In the end, Ning Qi couldn't help his curiosity, so he went to Tao Donglai's office and listened to his talk about how to sell arms to the two countries at the same time without causing resentment.After listening to the narration, Ning Qi couldn't help admiring Bex's brains for coming up with such an unimaginable way of dealing with it.
Bai Kesi's handling method is not complicated to say, it is the simplest auction.Since both of these two have a strong desire to buy weapons, then Haihan arranged a 1v1 special auction for them.If you want to buy a warship, then you will announce a reserve price based on the existing market price, and then the two companies will bid separately. Whoever can afford more money will take the boat away.
And what will appear at the auction is not just an order for a certain ship. If the desire to buy from the two countries is strong enough, it is very hopeful that the final transaction price will be raised to a record high.
In the same way, it is far more than warships that can make these two countries fight. If you flip through the arms sales list of Haihan Ordnance Industry, there are a lot of weapons that can make these two countries fight.I just don’t know how much money the Matalan mission brought here this time, is it enough for them to dominate the auction and suppress the equally wealthy East India Company.
"Then this turn is too hasty, right? When I sent Su Keyi away just now, I swore to him that Haihan would never sell weapons to other countries easily. This is going to be a slap in the face!" Ning Qi complained.
"It's okay to turn slowly if you want, but you have to operate it yourself. If you can convince them to accept this method, then the subsequent things will be relatively easy." Tao Donglai continued to encourage Ning Qi to join this Come on plan.
Ning Qi sighed and said, "Give me some time and allow me to think about it. If the Ministry of Foreign Affairs also gets involved in this matter, it will be difficult to do future work."
Ning Qi had previously kept telling Su Keyi how the Ministry of Foreign Affairs maintains peace between countries and rejected any manual instigation of war, but if he himself participated in this auction, the reputation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would definitely be damaged.
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Su Keyi was worried that Ning Qi was just bluffing himself with words, and then let the Matalan mission sneak into Chen Cang and quietly sign the military purchase contract.At that time, Batavia will be held accountable, regardless of how difficult his operation in Sanya is, this blame must be pinned on him.Seeing that he couldn't get a single word from Ning Qi, Su Keyi could only try to find Tao Donglai.
Of course, as the main person in charge of the Haihan Executive Committee, Tao Donglai doesn't always see him whenever he wants. If there is anything outside that can't be solved, Tao Donglai will be called to him, even if he has 48 people a day. Hours are not enough.Especially for foreign-related meetings, it is necessary to submit an application through the diplomatic department first, and make an appointment and schedule.
Ning Qi responded: "Mr. Su, it's okay for you to see Chairman Tao, but you still have to follow the rules. If you need it, I can arrange someone to register for you right away, but I can't tell you when you can see him. You promised."
Ning Qi's words made Su Keyi calm down from his excitement, and he immediately realized that he had indeed made a mistake.Tao Donglai is almost equivalent to the king of a country in Haihan. As a foreigner, how can he see it as soon as he says he sees it.If you don't follow the diplomatic procedure, the other party will naturally have a good reason to reject you, let alone talk about the arms business, I'm afraid it's hard to offend Haihan's senior management.
Su Keyi took a deep breath to calm down the unhappiness in his heart, and said to Ning Qi in as calm a tone as possible: "Minister Ning, I lost my temper just now, and I hope you don't mind. It's really because this matter is related to my East India Company. The fate of the future, since I have the news, I must do my best. Minister Ning should also be very clear about the grievances between Matalan and our side. Although they failed to attack the city of Batavia back then, but His wolfish ambitions have never given up looking for opportunities to continue the war. If your country sells military weapons and equipment to him, it is tantamount to helping the tyrant to provoke a war. I know that Minister Ning has always advocated peace, so you can't just sit idly by!"
Ning Qi thought in his heart that you might be too young to talk about these big truths with me, and a verbal fight is not such a simple matter.The pacifism advocated by Ning Qi has undergone continuous evolution in the past few years, and it is no longer the original attitude of abusing good people.The so-called peace is only for Haihan himself. What he advocates is to try to avoid resorting to war to resolve territorial or trade disputes, but there is a premise that one of the participants in the war is Haihan. If Haihan does not need to participate in the war, Then he wouldn't care whether it was a cow hitting a dead horse or a horse kicking a dead cow outside.
To put it bluntly, if the East India Company goes to war with Matalan, from Haihan's point of view, it will definitely be happy. After the strength of the two countries is weakened by the war, Haihan can naturally use many means Make them more dependent on themselves in the field of trade.Wars in this era often slow down the development of countries in the region. Even the victors need a long time to digest the fruits of victory and heal their own injuries. No matter who wins or loses in the two countries, Haihan, an outsider, will definitely become a vested interest.Su Keyi's heart-to-heart persuasion has no effect on Ning Qi.
Of course, as a qualified diplomat, Ning Qi will still cooperate and act: "Mr. Su is exactly what I want to express just now. From the perspective of our country, of course I can't bear to see the two of you explode again. War, if this kind of incident can be avoided, our country will definitely handle it properly. So please also trust us, Mr. Su, things are not going in the direction you expected, and everything can be resolved through normal channels of communication.”
Su Keyi was skeptical when he heard it, and always felt that these words were just Haihan's usual diplomatic rhetoric.The Haihan people also said that they would treat Portugal and the Netherlands fairly and treat them equally, but what is the truth?Portuguese merchant ships have been allowed to enter the northern waters, but Dutch merchant ships are still expressly prohibited from entering this waters.Moreover, Su Keyi also knew that the Portuguese secretly bought a lot of artillery from Haihan and shipped them back to Europe, but the sale of these heavy weapons to the Netherlands was completely prohibited.It is not a day or two since Haihan treats the East India Company differently. Su Keyi does not believe that they will change their position on the matter of Mata Ram and side with the East India Company.
Of course, this kind of thinking cannot be expressed directly, so Su Keyi made a detour and said: "Of course I can trust the reputation of your country, but I certainly can't trust the Matalan people. If they buy arms from your country, The first thing to do after returning home is to start a war. I hope that your country can use an open method so that we can confirm that your country will not sell weapons to the Matalan people."
"An open method?" Ning Qi raised his eyebrows. It was obvious that Su Keyi still refused to give up, but he only settled for the next best thing, asking Haihan to refuse the Matalan people's request for weapons and equipment.However, if Haihan issued an announcement through official channels to reject the Matalan people, this may affect Haihan's future arms business.
"I think Mr. Su should go back and wait for the news. If the Matalan people really apply for arms procurement from our country, then we will definitely carefully consider the impact on the East India Company." Ning Qi refused. If we continue to entangle with Su Keyi, and engage in such time-wasting verbal battles, we simply serve tea to see off the guests.
Although Su Keyi spoke dryly, he hardly played any role here in Ningqi, and he couldn't think of any other way at the moment. He could only use a dead horse as a living horse doctor, expressing that he would seek to see Tao Donglai through diplomatic channels.After going around in a circle and coming back, this is the only way to see a glimmer of hope.
Ning Qi nodded in response, sent Su Keyi out of the office, then called Tao Donglai, explained to him what he had just discussed with Su Keyi, and finally asked Tao Donglai for instructions: "What do you think about this matter? "
Tao Donglai said: "The Dutch can't afford to lose. If they are attacked by the Matalan people again, they may not be as lucky as before. The situation of the Matalan country is a little bit better, at least the Dutch There is no ability to pose a fundamental threat to this country now. Once war breaks out, the East India Company must only take a defensive position. If the Mata Blue Army can receive military aid from our country, the chances of breaking through Batavia City are better than It was much bigger last time."
Ning Qi was also a little puzzled when he heard this: "Old Tao, what do you mean, we should simply support the Matalan Kingdom and let them send troops to attack Batavia and destroy the East India Company?"
"It's not to destroy them, but to weaken them." Tao Donglai explained on the phone: "If there is no Dutch, then our connection with the Western world will only be left with the Portuguese family. This is like putting eggs in the same basket. It’s just as dangerous as there. So the presence of the Dutch in the Far East is still useful to us, as long as they bleed every two or three years.”
Ning Qi already understood Tao Donglai's plan when he heard this: "That is to cancel the embargo on the sale of weapons, and sell both sides?"
"You have to be a bit skilled in selling this. If you do it well, you have to say thank you to both of these two companies after they are sold out. I discussed a general framework with Lao Bai before, but Lao Bai still has a few days to complete the plan." Come back, why don't you take his place first and organize related matters first?" Tao Donglai gave Ning Qi a suggestion on the phone, but it seemed a bit unreliable to Ning Qi.
"Why do I feel that you have planned it long ago, and just waited for these two families to come to your door?" Ning Qi faintly smelled the smell of conspiracy.If he hadn't heard the Matalan man's request for military purchases in person, he would almost have thought that Haihan Military Industry had already negotiated the deal with the Matalan man in advance.
Tao Donglai replied: "This is not premeditated. The Haihan Ordnance Industry in charge of Bai Kesi is engaged in the export of arms. Of course, he has to think about how to sell weapons to those customers who are in urgent need without threatening Haihan. You Don’t forget, Matalam used to buy weapons from us. It was only after the Dutch made a big fuss that they suspended this business. So how to sell arms to these two companies is actually not new. As for the topic, Beks has been thinking about it for a long time, just waiting for the right time."
Only then did Ning Qi recall that between the end of the Batavia War in 1632 and the establishment of the South China Sea Trade Union at the end of 1633, Haihan had indeed sold hundreds of Cannons and ammunition.Although these cannons are only the oldest cast iron cannons, for the Matalan people who have relatively backward weaponry and almost no heavy long-range weapons, these cannons are no different from magic weapons.And apart from Haihan, no other country is willing to sell this weapon to them.Therefore, although the prices of these artillery pieces are extremely high, the Matalan people still think that they have made money in the transaction.
However, after the establishment of the South China Sea Trade Union, the East India Company asked Haihan not to sell arms to Mata Lan, and also signed the supplementary agreement mentioned by Su Keyi before, so as to ensure that the East India Company's force can be used in the area around Java. maintain a dominant position for a long time.
Of course, the so-called dominant position of the East India Company is only at sea. The Dutch armed merchant ships are comparable to the best warships in Matalam in terms of combat effectiveness. The blue country only needs to rely on its superiority in military strength to make the East India Company complain.
So this time the Matalan mission came to Sanya, and the main purchase target was Haihan's warship.Mata Lan Sultan believes that as long as the country's maritime armed forces can become strong enough, then Batavia City will not have a second chance for luck.The "Exploration Class" and "Exploration Class" warships with relatively small tonnage have become the equipment that the Matalan people tried to purchase this time.
Although the Haihan Navy's combat ships have always been built by the Shengli Port Shipyard, there are more than one shipyard in Sanya that can manufacture "exploration-class" sailboats. The shipyards in Danzhou, Zhoushan, and even Annan Heitu Port are all Can build this kind of warship.Therefore, the Matalan people thought that this kind of warship was no longer a scarce commodity, so they applied to Haihan for the purchase.
Since Matalan is far away from Hainan Island, they don't know much about Haihan's arms sales methods, but their purpose of buying weapons and equipment is undisguised, that is, to compete with the Dutch.For Hai Han, this situation is equivalent to being taken advantage of in front of him, and he also took the initiative to pass the stick to his hand, it is difficult not to hit him with a stick.
Tao Donglai had been thinking about how to maximize Haihan's benefits, and Su Keyi's active appearance undoubtedly provided him with a solution to the problem.Since the Dutch are also very concerned about this, let these two companies compete head-on.
In the end, Ning Qi couldn't help his curiosity, so he went to Tao Donglai's office and listened to his talk about how to sell arms to the two countries at the same time without causing resentment.After listening to the narration, Ning Qi couldn't help admiring Bex's brains for coming up with such an unimaginable way of dealing with it.
Bai Kesi's handling method is not complicated to say, it is the simplest auction.Since both of these two have a strong desire to buy weapons, then Haihan arranged a 1v1 special auction for them.If you want to buy a warship, then you will announce a reserve price based on the existing market price, and then the two companies will bid separately. Whoever can afford more money will take the boat away.
And what will appear at the auction is not just an order for a certain ship. If the desire to buy from the two countries is strong enough, it is very hopeful that the final transaction price will be raised to a record high.
In the same way, it is far more than warships that can make these two countries fight. If you flip through the arms sales list of Haihan Ordnance Industry, there are a lot of weapons that can make these two countries fight.I just don’t know how much money the Matalan mission brought here this time, is it enough for them to dominate the auction and suppress the equally wealthy East India Company.
"Then this turn is too hasty, right? When I sent Su Keyi away just now, I swore to him that Haihan would never sell weapons to other countries easily. This is going to be a slap in the face!" Ning Qi complained.
"It's okay to turn slowly if you want, but you have to operate it yourself. If you can convince them to accept this method, then the subsequent things will be relatively easy." Tao Donglai continued to encourage Ning Qi to join this Come on plan.
Ning Qi sighed and said, "Give me some time and allow me to think about it. If the Ministry of Foreign Affairs also gets involved in this matter, it will be difficult to do future work."
Ning Qi had previously kept telling Su Keyi how the Ministry of Foreign Affairs maintains peace between countries and rejected any manual instigation of war, but if he himself participated in this auction, the reputation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would definitely be damaged.
(End of this chapter)