Chapter 2735
Chapter 2735
Chapter 2735
In the past few years, Haihan has carried out trade negotiations with other countries. There may be hundreds of times in total, and it is not the first time to deal with the Tokugawa shogunate. Therefore, this issue is more prepared than the Ryukyu issue. more fully.
The shogunate obviously did not have a clear understanding of the true intentions of the Haihan mission behind trade-related issues, or even if they were aware of it, they were completely unaware of the seriousness of the matter.Tokugawa Ietsuna and his subordinates were all attracted by the bright prospects painted by the mission. Even Tadaki Sakai, a staunch supporter of the country-locking policy, could hardly refuse the considerable benefits brought by the trade with Haihan.
According to the estimated data given by the mission, in the next ten years, the economic benefits obtained by the shogunate from bilateral trade will continue to increase at an annual rate of more than [-]%, and the social production and circulation that will be driven by this will be even greater. is considerable.If the shogunate can effectively guide and manage production activities in the area under its rule during this period, it is very likely that it will usher in the most prosperous period after the Tokugawa shogunate came to power.
For the shogunate, it seems that there is no price to pay at all. As long as the implementation of certain laws and regulations is slightly adjusted, and Haihan merchants are provided with some negligible convenience, they can enjoy the many benefits of the increased scale of trade.
Negotiations between the two parties soon entered the stage of discussing specific operations, involving tax rate adjustments, ship schedule arrangements, settlement methods, and the delineation of the exclusive wharf at Nagasaki Port, which the mission is most concerned about.
Although the negotiations on these details are quite time-consuming and laborious, it also means that the tone of the cooperation between the two parties has basically been set.The rest of the work of bargaining can be said to have no effect on the overall situation.
However, the shogunate did not intend to terminate the talks on trade issues. After the third meeting, Tokugawa Iezuna made a request to the mission.
"Buy weapons and equipment from our country?" After hearing this request, Shi Chengwu deliberately confirmed it with the other party again.
In fact, he was not surprised that the shogunate would have such a plan. In fact, this was a request made by almost every country that formally established diplomatic relations with Haihan, even Western countries such as Portugal and the Netherlands.Although Haihan sells arms at a high price, the glorious achievements of the Haihan army are the most effective living advertisements, and Haihan will provide supporting services such as combat skills training, and even pay in installments or in kind. For buyers who want to quickly improve their combat power, Haihan is undoubtedly an ideal transaction partner.
But Japan is not considered a traditional buyer of Haihan's arms. Due to well-known reasons, Japan has been listed as an arms ban by Haihan for a long period of time in the past, in order to prevent weapons from flowing into certain countries that have feuds with Haihan. hands of local forces.
The official sales ban cannot completely prevent sporadic weapons and equipment from flowing into Japan from black market channels, but not buying them in batches means that these weapons cannot be officially installed in the army, and logistical support will also be difficult to solve.
Even so, there are still people in Japan who keep in touch with Haihan. Even if they can't buy standard equipment, they can at least send them over for training.So at the Sasebo base, there have been sporadic Japanese samurai training, but the shogunate is not on the list of cooperation partners.
The shogunate is not ignorant of these signs of undercurrents, but it is difficult for the shogunate to intervene directly to stop the matter involving Haihan.
Personnel training is still a small matter, but if one day Haihan starts selling weapons and equipment to these trainees, it may cause chaos.
Under the shogunate, there were actually arsenals that produced muskets and artillery, but limited by their technical level, they could only manufacture the most primitive matchlock guns and small-caliber cast iron cannons, which were even far behind the military technology mastered by the Hirado clan.Because the materials and technology are not up to standard, the imitation Haihan weapon can only imitate the appearance, and it cannot achieve the performance required for combat.
Therefore, for the shogunate, the most urgent task is to purchase standard equipment with reliable performance from Haihan to enhance the strength of the army under its command, so as to effectively consolidate the rule of the shogunate and deter those ambitious people who act secretly.
Although it was the first time to formally purchase arms from Haihan, the order from the shogunate was quite a big one: [-] flintlock guns, [-] cannons, [-] expeditionary warships equipped with weapons, and a complete set of armor And some standard cold weapons.
Shi Chengwu read the list listed by the shogunate. Although he was quite excited, he still tried his best to control his expression, and replied calmly: "The equipment that your country plans to purchase, except for armor and traditional weapons, are almost all in the It is on the list of export restrictions in our country... I think this matter will be a bit difficult to handle."
Regardless of the real purpose of the Tokugawa shogunate's purchase of arms, Shi Chengwu would not agree immediately.The weapons and equipment produced by Haihan are expensive. On the one hand, it has superior combat performance, and on the other hand, it is due to the shortage of supply.Even if the Tokugawa shogunate can come up with cash, it may not be able to buy the spot.
After some discussions, Shi Chengwu said that he would ask the executive committee for instructions on the matter. If the approval of the executive committee can be obtained, then the next step of negotiation can be carried out on the specific content of the order.
With Haihan's military strength today, there is no need to be afraid of Japan, so selling arms to it is no longer taboo, but how to sell the arms still needs to be considered comprehensively.
If it is only sold to the shogunate, it is basically a one-shot deal.But if you can find a few more buyers, and then provoke them to confront, so that the weapons and equipment will continue to be consumed, then this business will be considered alive.
And at this moment, good news came from Sasebo.Amakusa Shiro said that he has already contacted the Shimadzu clan of the Satsuma clan on the restoration of Ryukyu, and he is very optimistic about the prospects for cooperation.
As the mission expected, the focus of Shimadzu's concern was not Ryukyu, but trade relations with China.Ryukyu can restore the country, but it still needs to continue to serve as a trade transit point for the Satsuma clan in name, so that the Satsuma clan can continue to engage in cross-border trade activities without violating the lock-down order.But this matter is simple to say, after entering the actual operation link, there will still be many specific troublesome matters to be resolved.
As for Haihan's military assistance to the Satsuma clan, the Shimadzu family showed even greater interest.Mitsuhisa Shimadzu, the lord of the feudal clan, made it clear that as long as Haihan can assist the Satsuma clan to establish a new army using firearms, other cooperation projects can be discussed, and almost simultaneously with Edo's request for the purchase of arms.Only limited by financial resources, the content of the order is much thinner than that of the shogunate.
(End of this chapter)
In the past few years, Haihan has carried out trade negotiations with other countries. There may be hundreds of times in total, and it is not the first time to deal with the Tokugawa shogunate. Therefore, this issue is more prepared than the Ryukyu issue. more fully.
The shogunate obviously did not have a clear understanding of the true intentions of the Haihan mission behind trade-related issues, or even if they were aware of it, they were completely unaware of the seriousness of the matter.Tokugawa Ietsuna and his subordinates were all attracted by the bright prospects painted by the mission. Even Tadaki Sakai, a staunch supporter of the country-locking policy, could hardly refuse the considerable benefits brought by the trade with Haihan.
According to the estimated data given by the mission, in the next ten years, the economic benefits obtained by the shogunate from bilateral trade will continue to increase at an annual rate of more than [-]%, and the social production and circulation that will be driven by this will be even greater. is considerable.If the shogunate can effectively guide and manage production activities in the area under its rule during this period, it is very likely that it will usher in the most prosperous period after the Tokugawa shogunate came to power.
For the shogunate, it seems that there is no price to pay at all. As long as the implementation of certain laws and regulations is slightly adjusted, and Haihan merchants are provided with some negligible convenience, they can enjoy the many benefits of the increased scale of trade.
Negotiations between the two parties soon entered the stage of discussing specific operations, involving tax rate adjustments, ship schedule arrangements, settlement methods, and the delineation of the exclusive wharf at Nagasaki Port, which the mission is most concerned about.
Although the negotiations on these details are quite time-consuming and laborious, it also means that the tone of the cooperation between the two parties has basically been set.The rest of the work of bargaining can be said to have no effect on the overall situation.
However, the shogunate did not intend to terminate the talks on trade issues. After the third meeting, Tokugawa Iezuna made a request to the mission.
"Buy weapons and equipment from our country?" After hearing this request, Shi Chengwu deliberately confirmed it with the other party again.
In fact, he was not surprised that the shogunate would have such a plan. In fact, this was a request made by almost every country that formally established diplomatic relations with Haihan, even Western countries such as Portugal and the Netherlands.Although Haihan sells arms at a high price, the glorious achievements of the Haihan army are the most effective living advertisements, and Haihan will provide supporting services such as combat skills training, and even pay in installments or in kind. For buyers who want to quickly improve their combat power, Haihan is undoubtedly an ideal transaction partner.
But Japan is not considered a traditional buyer of Haihan's arms. Due to well-known reasons, Japan has been listed as an arms ban by Haihan for a long period of time in the past, in order to prevent weapons from flowing into certain countries that have feuds with Haihan. hands of local forces.
The official sales ban cannot completely prevent sporadic weapons and equipment from flowing into Japan from black market channels, but not buying them in batches means that these weapons cannot be officially installed in the army, and logistical support will also be difficult to solve.
Even so, there are still people in Japan who keep in touch with Haihan. Even if they can't buy standard equipment, they can at least send them over for training.So at the Sasebo base, there have been sporadic Japanese samurai training, but the shogunate is not on the list of cooperation partners.
The shogunate is not ignorant of these signs of undercurrents, but it is difficult for the shogunate to intervene directly to stop the matter involving Haihan.
Personnel training is still a small matter, but if one day Haihan starts selling weapons and equipment to these trainees, it may cause chaos.
Under the shogunate, there were actually arsenals that produced muskets and artillery, but limited by their technical level, they could only manufacture the most primitive matchlock guns and small-caliber cast iron cannons, which were even far behind the military technology mastered by the Hirado clan.Because the materials and technology are not up to standard, the imitation Haihan weapon can only imitate the appearance, and it cannot achieve the performance required for combat.
Therefore, for the shogunate, the most urgent task is to purchase standard equipment with reliable performance from Haihan to enhance the strength of the army under its command, so as to effectively consolidate the rule of the shogunate and deter those ambitious people who act secretly.
Although it was the first time to formally purchase arms from Haihan, the order from the shogunate was quite a big one: [-] flintlock guns, [-] cannons, [-] expeditionary warships equipped with weapons, and a complete set of armor And some standard cold weapons.
Shi Chengwu read the list listed by the shogunate. Although he was quite excited, he still tried his best to control his expression, and replied calmly: "The equipment that your country plans to purchase, except for armor and traditional weapons, are almost all in the It is on the list of export restrictions in our country... I think this matter will be a bit difficult to handle."
Regardless of the real purpose of the Tokugawa shogunate's purchase of arms, Shi Chengwu would not agree immediately.The weapons and equipment produced by Haihan are expensive. On the one hand, it has superior combat performance, and on the other hand, it is due to the shortage of supply.Even if the Tokugawa shogunate can come up with cash, it may not be able to buy the spot.
After some discussions, Shi Chengwu said that he would ask the executive committee for instructions on the matter. If the approval of the executive committee can be obtained, then the next step of negotiation can be carried out on the specific content of the order.
With Haihan's military strength today, there is no need to be afraid of Japan, so selling arms to it is no longer taboo, but how to sell the arms still needs to be considered comprehensively.
If it is only sold to the shogunate, it is basically a one-shot deal.But if you can find a few more buyers, and then provoke them to confront, so that the weapons and equipment will continue to be consumed, then this business will be considered alive.
And at this moment, good news came from Sasebo.Amakusa Shiro said that he has already contacted the Shimadzu clan of the Satsuma clan on the restoration of Ryukyu, and he is very optimistic about the prospects for cooperation.
As the mission expected, the focus of Shimadzu's concern was not Ryukyu, but trade relations with China.Ryukyu can restore the country, but it still needs to continue to serve as a trade transit point for the Satsuma clan in name, so that the Satsuma clan can continue to engage in cross-border trade activities without violating the lock-down order.But this matter is simple to say, after entering the actual operation link, there will still be many specific troublesome matters to be resolved.
As for Haihan's military assistance to the Satsuma clan, the Shimadzu family showed even greater interest.Mitsuhisa Shimadzu, the lord of the feudal clan, made it clear that as long as Haihan can assist the Satsuma clan to establish a new army using firearms, other cooperation projects can be discussed, and almost simultaneously with Edo's request for the purchase of arms.Only limited by financial resources, the content of the order is much thinner than that of the shogunate.
(End of this chapter)