Chapter 1849
Resistance to Cooperation
Chapter 1849 Resistance to Cooperation
The ruling system of North Korea is similar to that of Ming Dynasty, and the supervision of important industries such as salt and iron is extremely strict, which basically belongs to the field of state management.The situation of private ownership is not completely absent, but only a very small number of privileged classes are eligible to participate. For example, Li Zhen owns several iron mines in northern North Korea under his name. In his private small treasury.
Not to mention allowing foreigners to directly participate in the operation of these industries related to the national economy and the people's livelihood, even the dignitaries who are not high enough in their own country have to stand aside. Even Daming, which was regarded as the suzerain of North Korea in the past, never made such a request.Haihan hopes that North Korea can open up the right to operate these industries, so that the funds from Haihan can build shipyards and ports, set up salt farms, and mine minerals in North Korea.
These projects are all labor-intensive industries. In the future, they will create a large number of employment opportunities in North Korea. Coupled with the large amount of taxes paid to North Korean officials, they will play a role in stimulating North Korea's economic development.But the problem is that this is only the view of Haihan's side, and the North Koreans may not think so.
Haihan's entry into these fields will definitely squeeze out some people's jobs, and even cut off some people's way of making a fortune, which will naturally arouse many dissatisfaction and resistance.And North Korean officials are also worried that after some of these industries are controlled by Haihan, it will affect the stability of the original state-owned business model.One of the purposes of Wang Tom and Qian Tiandun's trip is to persuade North Korean officials to accept Haihan's proposal and remove obstacles for Haihan to enter these industries.
The more troublesome part of this matter is Li Zhen. Although Qian Tiandun and Wang Tom are confident in persuading him to accept Haihan's conditions, Li Zhen's authority in North Korea is not to the extent that he can make a decision with one word.Especially after the end of this war, there were a large number of war refugees in North Korea, and because the government had already emptied the treasury before that, there were many problems in the relief of refugees and the organization of post-disaster reconstruction, which led to many doubts in the country sound.Some people even think that the introduction of Haihan to resist the Qing Dynasty was actually another form of invasion. Now North Korea has provided Haihan with a lot of money, and let Haihan station troops in the country and obey his words. This is different from directly surrendering to the Qing army. How much difference can it make?
This kind of voice is naturally someone who is secretly rhythmic. The officials of the main peace faction who lost power, the northern landlord class who suffered heavy losses, the capitulation faction with ulterior motives, and the spies who secretly defected to the Qing court long ago, all want to influence the future of North Korea through public opinion. towards.Even if the imperial court intends to carry out in-depth cooperation with Haihan, it will still face a lot of resistance.
As the king of North Korea, Li Ji obviously lacked sufficient authority in the face of such a situation, unable to suppress various voices of doubt in the country, and this also affected his judgment on the direction of the North Korean situation. In-depth cooperation has produced hesitation.He was even a little worried that if he didn't handle the relationship with Haihan well, it would affect his rule of the country in the future.
However, considering that there are still many matters that require Haihan's help in the future, Li Yu cannot directly refuse Haihan's proposal, so as not to offend the other party, so in his opinion, perhaps the best solution is to drag it to the country It will be implemented after the situation stabilizes, or Haihan will give up on his own initiative.Of course, Haihan will definitely not allow North Korea to drag this issue forward.
"Your Majesty, the sooner the implementation starts, the sooner your country's economic problems will be solved, and after having these industries, our country will also reduce or exempt your country's military cooperation expenses as appropriate. This is a great deal for the two countries. It is a good thing to achieve a win-win situation!"
Tom Wang knew very well that the main motivation to persuade Li Tong to accept his own conditions was economics. He had to make Li Ying aware of the practical benefits that Haihan's entry into these fields would bring to North Korea.
Li Zhen responded with a dry cough: "General Wang is right, but our country has its own national conditions. Although opening up these industries has many benefits, it will also cause many problems. Given the current situation, I am afraid it will be difficult to implement."
After Li Zhen finished speaking, Jin Shangxian continued to explain: "Two generals, although the war with the Qing Dynasty has ended, our country has not yet been completely settled. Such opening measures will inevitably cause people's hearts to fluctuate. Perhaps it is not appropriate at the moment. time."
Wang Tom continued: "Such an important decision must have advantages and disadvantages, but as long as the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, it is worth implementing. There will definitely be some people in your country who will suffer losses because of this decision, but we can guarantee that it is only extremely There are a small number of people, and it is impossible to affect His Majesty's ruling status. Our country will continue to give His Majesty the strongest support, whether political or military!"
Tom Wang actually knew a little bit why Li Jing was hesitant to cooperate, so in addition to the big enough benefits, he also had to give the other party enough confidence.And now that the war has just ended, the "support" promised by Haihan is undoubtedly very important.
However, this kind of support actually has certain limitations. If Haihan intervenes in North Korea's internal disputes militarily, it may indeed be able to quickly suppress the voice of opposition, but this will also cause more fear.Even the king, Li Ji, may not be willing to let foreign armed forces directly intervene in the country's political disputes. If any powerful minister and aristocrat secretly find Haihan and promise a bunch of benefits to make him change his position and support himself as the leader, then Haihan Han may not necessarily regard Li Zhen as the first choice for support.
Therefore, Tom Wang can only express his attitude towards this, instead of directly taking measures to suppress opponents, so as not to backfire and make Li Zhen feel scruples.Of course, there is another deeper meaning in doing this, which is to take this opportunity to remind Li Xi that whether his current dominant position is stable or not depends to a certain extent on Hai Han's support.
Qian Tiandun also said at this time: "Your Majesty, these cooperation plans proposed by our country are not to take over the projects in operation in your country, but to develop and operate them separately. The dignitaries in your country also have the opportunity to join these projects. Come. The goal we are pursuing is to make a fortune together, not to transfer the existing wealth of your country to our own pockets. Even if some people will lose their interests, but at the same time more people will benefit from it The good news is that the voices of support will soon overwhelm the opposition, and His Majesty does not need to worry too much about this."
Benefit!In the final analysis, no matter whether you support or oppose Haihan's development plan, the fundamental problem lies in your own interests. Only by solving this problem first can other resistances be resolved.What Qian Tiandun said was to remind Li Zhen that those who raised objections could also join in the development plan, so that they could benefit from it, and then use this to change their position.
Of course, as for who is worth wooing and allowing them to get a share of it, it is up to Li Zhen to make the choice, and this may also become one of his means of calming the domestic chaos.
But even though Qian Tiandun and Wang Tom spent a lot of saliva, the negotiations with the North Korean high-level officials were still bumpy and did not go smoothly, and no substantive results were achieved this day.Jin Shangjiu, who was specially called to participate in the negotiations, only acted as a spectator during the whole process, because he did not enter the stage of negotiation of specific conditions that he should be responsible for at all.
After returning to the residence, Qian Tiandun and Wang Tom discussed the status of today's negotiations. They believed that the key issue was not only the differences of opinion in North Korea, but also the development prospects of these development projects proposed by Li Zhen. He is not optimistic, so he dare not make up his mind to support Haihan's plan.
The best way to solve this problem is, of course, to invite people like Li Ji and Jin Shangxian to the areas under the Haihan rule to see the actual operation of these business projects, such as the Sanya Shipyard, Heitugang Coal Mine, Shilu Railway Mine, Yinggehai Salt Field, etc., after seeing it, they will naturally understand what Hai Han said is true, and the benefits that these industries can bring far exceed their imagination.
But this is obviously a solution that is difficult to realize in the near future. The domestic situation in North Korea is not stable. How dare Li Zhen dare to leave his homeland to go on an overseas tour, and he is now extremely dependent on Kim Sang-heon's domestic influence, and it is unlikely that Kim Sang-heon will be sent to North Korea. The South went to visit and inspect Haihan's operating conditions in these projects.
"Perhaps we can make arrangements nearby, so that the North Koreans can go to Lushun to see the shipyard, to Shandong to inspect the Fushan copper mine, to Zhejiang to visit the salt field in Ningbo... Although the scale of operations in these places is not comparable to that in the south, they are all already on the market." After the orbit, it can be regarded as having a good appearance." Qian Tiandun proposed a solution.
Tom Wang said with a wry smile: "Of course it is possible, but I'm afraid that after reading it, it will make the North Koreans retreat."
"How do you say that?" Qian Tiandun asked in puzzlement.
Wang Tom said: "In fact, these places are all the territory of Ming Dynasty, but they were occupied by us. Do you think that after the North Koreans have seen it, they will worry that these resources of their own country may also be lost. Same fate?"
After Qian Tiandun listened to it, he had to admit that what Wang Tom said was somewhat reasonable. The places he mentioned just now, except Zhoushan, Shipu, Xiangshan and other places in Ningbo, were operated by the local government. However, the mining of the Fushan Copper Mine in Dengzhou, Shandong has long excluded the local government, and even fought with the Ming army in Dengzhou for this reason.
Not to mention Lushun, after the negotiation with Daming ended last year, Haihan has classified it as its own territory, and Daming is not allowed to send local officials to the local government, even in name only.Now the soldiers and civilians of Dongjiang Town who moved from Pidao to Jinzhou are also changing their nationalities one after another. Daming is unable to raise troops against Liaodong, let alone offend Haihan because of this, so he can only suffer from this dumb loss.
These places belonged to Daming in the past, but they were successively occupied by Haihan for various reasons. Even if the North Koreans didn't say anything after watching it, they might not have no opinion in their hearts. After all, they dared to grab the meat in Daming's bowl. After that, it is not uncommon to take advantage of North Korea.Now that Haihan wants to build these industries in North Korea, if these projects in Daming are used as an example, it is indeed possible that they will discourage the North Koreans.
Qian Tiandun sighed: "If these development plans cannot be negotiated, then the follow-up immigration issue will not be easy to handle!"
According to their original assumption, as long as the cooperation with North Korea on these industrial projects can be finalized, then a large number of manpower will be hired in North Korea. At that time, there may be tens of thousands of North Koreans working for Haihan, and many North Korean dignitaries will also With interests involved, it will be much easier to talk about immigration when the time comes.
"Immigrants... let's see if Liu Shangpu's road can work!" Wang Tom also knew that Liu Shang approached Park Beixiu, a North Korean official, to try to persuade Kim Sang-heon to change his treatment of immigrants before resigning from office. Attitude.But I am afraid that this method will not receive immediate results even if it costs money, so we can only wait and see.
"Perhaps we should find out where the main source of opposition in North Korea is. There will inevitably be some opinion leaders among them. If these people are dealt with first, Li Jing should not be hesitant anymore. "Tom Wang took a different approach and proposed a new solution.
Qian Tiandun said: "Then shall we visit Kim Shangxian tonight?"
Wang Tom shook his head and said: "Kim Sang-heon also has a lot of concerns about this matter, and he may not be willing to tell the truth...I think it's better to find Jin Sang-jiu. Now the North Korean in Seoul who knows the most about our country is probably him. His thoughts , maybe not as rigid as other North Koreans."
As an envoy sent abroad, Jin Shangjiu has lived in the Haihan ruled area for some time, and he served as a liaison officer in the coalition army some time ago. Wang Tom and Qian Tiandun both have a good impression of this person, so at this time it is still a good idea. Thinking of him, I thought that the hope of opening a breakthrough could be placed on him.
There are North Korean army guards outside the Haihan Mission's residence, if the two go out, there will be a big commotion, so even send someone to ask Jin Shangjiu to come over to the house for a briefing.Jin Shangjiu also participated in this negotiation, so it seemed reasonable to invite him to meet in the name of consultation.
Jin Shangjiu did not refuse the invitation, and soon took a carriage to the residence of the Haihan Mission.After listening to Wang Tom's question, Jin Shangjiu immediately understood what they meant: "The two generals inquired about the news of the opposition because they wanted to suppress the voices of opposition in our country's political arena first, so that the king would have no worries. Continue to promote negotiations on those industrial projects?"
Qian Tiandun nodded and said: "There is a saying in our country that there are no permanent enemies, only permanent interests. As long as there are enough common interests, enemies can also become partners. We want to try it out and see if we can make those The dissenters are also joining the grand scheme to change North Korea."
(End of this chapter)
The ruling system of North Korea is similar to that of Ming Dynasty, and the supervision of important industries such as salt and iron is extremely strict, which basically belongs to the field of state management.The situation of private ownership is not completely absent, but only a very small number of privileged classes are eligible to participate. For example, Li Zhen owns several iron mines in northern North Korea under his name. In his private small treasury.
Not to mention allowing foreigners to directly participate in the operation of these industries related to the national economy and the people's livelihood, even the dignitaries who are not high enough in their own country have to stand aside. Even Daming, which was regarded as the suzerain of North Korea in the past, never made such a request.Haihan hopes that North Korea can open up the right to operate these industries, so that the funds from Haihan can build shipyards and ports, set up salt farms, and mine minerals in North Korea.
These projects are all labor-intensive industries. In the future, they will create a large number of employment opportunities in North Korea. Coupled with the large amount of taxes paid to North Korean officials, they will play a role in stimulating North Korea's economic development.But the problem is that this is only the view of Haihan's side, and the North Koreans may not think so.
Haihan's entry into these fields will definitely squeeze out some people's jobs, and even cut off some people's way of making a fortune, which will naturally arouse many dissatisfaction and resistance.And North Korean officials are also worried that after some of these industries are controlled by Haihan, it will affect the stability of the original state-owned business model.One of the purposes of Wang Tom and Qian Tiandun's trip is to persuade North Korean officials to accept Haihan's proposal and remove obstacles for Haihan to enter these industries.
The more troublesome part of this matter is Li Zhen. Although Qian Tiandun and Wang Tom are confident in persuading him to accept Haihan's conditions, Li Zhen's authority in North Korea is not to the extent that he can make a decision with one word.Especially after the end of this war, there were a large number of war refugees in North Korea, and because the government had already emptied the treasury before that, there were many problems in the relief of refugees and the organization of post-disaster reconstruction, which led to many doubts in the country sound.Some people even think that the introduction of Haihan to resist the Qing Dynasty was actually another form of invasion. Now North Korea has provided Haihan with a lot of money, and let Haihan station troops in the country and obey his words. This is different from directly surrendering to the Qing army. How much difference can it make?
This kind of voice is naturally someone who is secretly rhythmic. The officials of the main peace faction who lost power, the northern landlord class who suffered heavy losses, the capitulation faction with ulterior motives, and the spies who secretly defected to the Qing court long ago, all want to influence the future of North Korea through public opinion. towards.Even if the imperial court intends to carry out in-depth cooperation with Haihan, it will still face a lot of resistance.
As the king of North Korea, Li Ji obviously lacked sufficient authority in the face of such a situation, unable to suppress various voices of doubt in the country, and this also affected his judgment on the direction of the North Korean situation. In-depth cooperation has produced hesitation.He was even a little worried that if he didn't handle the relationship with Haihan well, it would affect his rule of the country in the future.
However, considering that there are still many matters that require Haihan's help in the future, Li Yu cannot directly refuse Haihan's proposal, so as not to offend the other party, so in his opinion, perhaps the best solution is to drag it to the country It will be implemented after the situation stabilizes, or Haihan will give up on his own initiative.Of course, Haihan will definitely not allow North Korea to drag this issue forward.
"Your Majesty, the sooner the implementation starts, the sooner your country's economic problems will be solved, and after having these industries, our country will also reduce or exempt your country's military cooperation expenses as appropriate. This is a great deal for the two countries. It is a good thing to achieve a win-win situation!"
Tom Wang knew very well that the main motivation to persuade Li Tong to accept his own conditions was economics. He had to make Li Ying aware of the practical benefits that Haihan's entry into these fields would bring to North Korea.
Li Zhen responded with a dry cough: "General Wang is right, but our country has its own national conditions. Although opening up these industries has many benefits, it will also cause many problems. Given the current situation, I am afraid it will be difficult to implement."
After Li Zhen finished speaking, Jin Shangxian continued to explain: "Two generals, although the war with the Qing Dynasty has ended, our country has not yet been completely settled. Such opening measures will inevitably cause people's hearts to fluctuate. Perhaps it is not appropriate at the moment. time."
Wang Tom continued: "Such an important decision must have advantages and disadvantages, but as long as the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, it is worth implementing. There will definitely be some people in your country who will suffer losses because of this decision, but we can guarantee that it is only extremely There are a small number of people, and it is impossible to affect His Majesty's ruling status. Our country will continue to give His Majesty the strongest support, whether political or military!"
Tom Wang actually knew a little bit why Li Jing was hesitant to cooperate, so in addition to the big enough benefits, he also had to give the other party enough confidence.And now that the war has just ended, the "support" promised by Haihan is undoubtedly very important.
However, this kind of support actually has certain limitations. If Haihan intervenes in North Korea's internal disputes militarily, it may indeed be able to quickly suppress the voice of opposition, but this will also cause more fear.Even the king, Li Ji, may not be willing to let foreign armed forces directly intervene in the country's political disputes. If any powerful minister and aristocrat secretly find Haihan and promise a bunch of benefits to make him change his position and support himself as the leader, then Haihan Han may not necessarily regard Li Zhen as the first choice for support.
Therefore, Tom Wang can only express his attitude towards this, instead of directly taking measures to suppress opponents, so as not to backfire and make Li Zhen feel scruples.Of course, there is another deeper meaning in doing this, which is to take this opportunity to remind Li Xi that whether his current dominant position is stable or not depends to a certain extent on Hai Han's support.
Qian Tiandun also said at this time: "Your Majesty, these cooperation plans proposed by our country are not to take over the projects in operation in your country, but to develop and operate them separately. The dignitaries in your country also have the opportunity to join these projects. Come. The goal we are pursuing is to make a fortune together, not to transfer the existing wealth of your country to our own pockets. Even if some people will lose their interests, but at the same time more people will benefit from it The good news is that the voices of support will soon overwhelm the opposition, and His Majesty does not need to worry too much about this."
Benefit!In the final analysis, no matter whether you support or oppose Haihan's development plan, the fundamental problem lies in your own interests. Only by solving this problem first can other resistances be resolved.What Qian Tiandun said was to remind Li Zhen that those who raised objections could also join in the development plan, so that they could benefit from it, and then use this to change their position.
Of course, as for who is worth wooing and allowing them to get a share of it, it is up to Li Zhen to make the choice, and this may also become one of his means of calming the domestic chaos.
But even though Qian Tiandun and Wang Tom spent a lot of saliva, the negotiations with the North Korean high-level officials were still bumpy and did not go smoothly, and no substantive results were achieved this day.Jin Shangjiu, who was specially called to participate in the negotiations, only acted as a spectator during the whole process, because he did not enter the stage of negotiation of specific conditions that he should be responsible for at all.
After returning to the residence, Qian Tiandun and Wang Tom discussed the status of today's negotiations. They believed that the key issue was not only the differences of opinion in North Korea, but also the development prospects of these development projects proposed by Li Zhen. He is not optimistic, so he dare not make up his mind to support Haihan's plan.
The best way to solve this problem is, of course, to invite people like Li Ji and Jin Shangxian to the areas under the Haihan rule to see the actual operation of these business projects, such as the Sanya Shipyard, Heitugang Coal Mine, Shilu Railway Mine, Yinggehai Salt Field, etc., after seeing it, they will naturally understand what Hai Han said is true, and the benefits that these industries can bring far exceed their imagination.
But this is obviously a solution that is difficult to realize in the near future. The domestic situation in North Korea is not stable. How dare Li Zhen dare to leave his homeland to go on an overseas tour, and he is now extremely dependent on Kim Sang-heon's domestic influence, and it is unlikely that Kim Sang-heon will be sent to North Korea. The South went to visit and inspect Haihan's operating conditions in these projects.
"Perhaps we can make arrangements nearby, so that the North Koreans can go to Lushun to see the shipyard, to Shandong to inspect the Fushan copper mine, to Zhejiang to visit the salt field in Ningbo... Although the scale of operations in these places is not comparable to that in the south, they are all already on the market." After the orbit, it can be regarded as having a good appearance." Qian Tiandun proposed a solution.
Tom Wang said with a wry smile: "Of course it is possible, but I'm afraid that after reading it, it will make the North Koreans retreat."
"How do you say that?" Qian Tiandun asked in puzzlement.
Wang Tom said: "In fact, these places are all the territory of Ming Dynasty, but they were occupied by us. Do you think that after the North Koreans have seen it, they will worry that these resources of their own country may also be lost. Same fate?"
After Qian Tiandun listened to it, he had to admit that what Wang Tom said was somewhat reasonable. The places he mentioned just now, except Zhoushan, Shipu, Xiangshan and other places in Ningbo, were operated by the local government. However, the mining of the Fushan Copper Mine in Dengzhou, Shandong has long excluded the local government, and even fought with the Ming army in Dengzhou for this reason.
Not to mention Lushun, after the negotiation with Daming ended last year, Haihan has classified it as its own territory, and Daming is not allowed to send local officials to the local government, even in name only.Now the soldiers and civilians of Dongjiang Town who moved from Pidao to Jinzhou are also changing their nationalities one after another. Daming is unable to raise troops against Liaodong, let alone offend Haihan because of this, so he can only suffer from this dumb loss.
These places belonged to Daming in the past, but they were successively occupied by Haihan for various reasons. Even if the North Koreans didn't say anything after watching it, they might not have no opinion in their hearts. After all, they dared to grab the meat in Daming's bowl. After that, it is not uncommon to take advantage of North Korea.Now that Haihan wants to build these industries in North Korea, if these projects in Daming are used as an example, it is indeed possible that they will discourage the North Koreans.
Qian Tiandun sighed: "If these development plans cannot be negotiated, then the follow-up immigration issue will not be easy to handle!"
According to their original assumption, as long as the cooperation with North Korea on these industrial projects can be finalized, then a large number of manpower will be hired in North Korea. At that time, there may be tens of thousands of North Koreans working for Haihan, and many North Korean dignitaries will also With interests involved, it will be much easier to talk about immigration when the time comes.
"Immigrants... let's see if Liu Shangpu's road can work!" Wang Tom also knew that Liu Shang approached Park Beixiu, a North Korean official, to try to persuade Kim Sang-heon to change his treatment of immigrants before resigning from office. Attitude.But I am afraid that this method will not receive immediate results even if it costs money, so we can only wait and see.
"Perhaps we should find out where the main source of opposition in North Korea is. There will inevitably be some opinion leaders among them. If these people are dealt with first, Li Jing should not be hesitant anymore. "Tom Wang took a different approach and proposed a new solution.
Qian Tiandun said: "Then shall we visit Kim Shangxian tonight?"
Wang Tom shook his head and said: "Kim Sang-heon also has a lot of concerns about this matter, and he may not be willing to tell the truth...I think it's better to find Jin Sang-jiu. Now the North Korean in Seoul who knows the most about our country is probably him. His thoughts , maybe not as rigid as other North Koreans."
As an envoy sent abroad, Jin Shangjiu has lived in the Haihan ruled area for some time, and he served as a liaison officer in the coalition army some time ago. Wang Tom and Qian Tiandun both have a good impression of this person, so at this time it is still a good idea. Thinking of him, I thought that the hope of opening a breakthrough could be placed on him.
There are North Korean army guards outside the Haihan Mission's residence, if the two go out, there will be a big commotion, so even send someone to ask Jin Shangjiu to come over to the house for a briefing.Jin Shangjiu also participated in this negotiation, so it seemed reasonable to invite him to meet in the name of consultation.
Jin Shangjiu did not refuse the invitation, and soon took a carriage to the residence of the Haihan Mission.After listening to Wang Tom's question, Jin Shangjiu immediately understood what they meant: "The two generals inquired about the news of the opposition because they wanted to suppress the voices of opposition in our country's political arena first, so that the king would have no worries. Continue to promote negotiations on those industrial projects?"
Qian Tiandun nodded and said: "There is a saying in our country that there are no permanent enemies, only permanent interests. As long as there are enough common interests, enemies can also become partners. We want to try it out and see if we can make those The dissenters are also joining the grand scheme to change North Korea."
(End of this chapter)