Chapter 2734
Chapter 2734
Chapter 2734
Like the previous stops, Zhu Zian continued to participate in the mission's diplomatic activities in Edo as a clerk.However, he could clearly feel that his status as a member of the Ming royal family was not easy to use in Japan. Even if the other party knew that he was a child of the Zhu family, he did not seem to be surprised or respected like the Koreans.
This is of course not surprising. After all, one is a traditional vassal state of Ming Dynasty, while the other is an enemy country with a history of many wars. The views and attitudes of the two towards Ming are very different.I believe that the Japanese would be happy to interpret Zhu Zian's status in the Haihan Mission as a symbol of Ming's decline, and an opponent who has already fallen is certainly not worthy of their awe and respect.
However, in this way, Zhu Zian was also able to focus more on the game process between the two sides, observing how the Haihan Mission achieved its goal step by step.
Compared with North Korea, the Japanese shogunate is obviously not so easy to deal with. Even if the head of the shogunate is only a sick and weak boy, he has not succumbed to Haihan's pressure.The setbacks encountered by the mission in the restoration of Ryukyu to the country were also unprecedented. Zhu Zian wanted to see how these young officials could solve the current difficulties.
But to his disappointment, after a meeting and discussion within the mission, he quickly decided to put aside the restoration of the Ryukyu Kingdom in advance and let Shiro Amakusa of Sasebo follow up, and focus on other issues for now.Compared with the trade issues closely related to Haihan's interests, the future and fate of the Ryukyu Kingdom is obviously not that important, even if it is delayed for a while, it doesn't matter.
Besides, there was no representative of the Ryukyu Kingdom in the mission, and the outside world knew very little about the negotiation process with the shogunate. Even if the ideal result was not achieved in a short period of time, the Ryukyu Kingdom still had to be grateful to Haihan.Because at this time, except for Hai Han, no one will stand up for them. If they want to get rid of the control of Satsuma, Hai Han is the only straw.
What puzzled Zhu Zian was that since Haihan had a strong force and had a military base in Japan, why didn't he simply use military means to force the shogunate to submit? Instead, he spent time and energy using diplomatic means. Just wanted the shogunate to make some concessions on trade rules.
As usual, after he raised these questions, Shi Chengwu quickly responded.
"The cost of using military means is too high, so it can only be used as a guarantee measure. The differences between us and the shogunate are far from life-and-death. To be precise, the current situation is that cooperation outweighs differences. The fundamental reason for sitting together and negotiating." Shi Chengwu patiently explained to him.
Zhu Zian continued to ask: "Since we want to cooperate with the shogunate, why do we try to create a force that can fight against the shogunate? Is this the same strategy as Haihan used in North Korea?"
Shi Chengwu said: "It is similar, but the specific strategies are still very different. The resistance we encounter here is much greater than that of North Korea. Our parents told us that this country is extremely aggressive. If we do not suppress it, sooner or later it will become a confidant. Big trouble. So our strategy is to let Japan continue to fight internally, so that they will not have extra energy and resources to spend on external expansion, and we can also take this opportunity to gain greater influence here.”
Zhu Zi'an said: "Why don't you simply send out troops to destroy the country, and then merge it into the Haihan territory?"
Shi Chengwu said: "It's beyond the reach of the whip, and it's powerless. Taking over the traditional territory of the Central Plains Dynasty is our country's top priority at the moment. Overseas barbarians like Japan are not worthy of our concentrated army. Besides, we are gradually controlling its economy and finance through trade means. Slowly penetrate into the political and cultural fields, and indirect rule can also be realized in the future."
Zhu Zi'an said: "But it may take three to fifty years to see the effect. When our generation gets old, it may not be able to realize the scene you mentioned."
Shi Chengwu said: "So what's the matter? If we go back 30 years, who would have thought that today will be the world of our Haihan Kingdom, and who can really predict what it will be like 30 years from now? Said Maybe in another ten years or so, our national power will be a hundred times stronger than it is now, and Japan can be flattened by just stretching out a finger, so there is no need to dawdle."
Shi Chengwu was undoubtedly very optimistic about Haihan's future prospects, but after Zhu Zian heard it, he couldn't help but feel a little uncomfortable. Thirty years ago, it was the Great Ming Dynasty. At that time, who would have thought that the Ming Dynasty had come to an end and would soon be replaced by an unknown emerging force.
In less than 30 years since the founding of Haihan, it has already seized the Great Ming Dynasty and become the leading power in this region.With such a speed of development, it is really hard to imagine what the scene will be like in 30 years.
For the same question, Zhu Zian got a somewhat different answer from Tao Hongfang.
"It's very simple, because Japan is not worth it." Tao Hongfang's analysis angle is different from Shi Chengwu's: "The only valuable resource here is the population, but our country has already won the mainland, and there are inexhaustible resources. With an exhausted population, why is there any need to stare at this square inch of land? Whether it is garrison or trade, there is only one purpose, which is to lock its development space from the outside. You may think that it is time-consuming and labor-intensive to use diplomatic means to achieve the goal But this is precisely the most efficient way. Even if one day we have to use means of war, the Haihan army should not be fighting here."
Tao Hongfang is not very interested in Japan, but the imprint left by his father's education made him very clear about his attitude towards this country.On this point, the attitude of all officials of the mission must be the same.
Tao Hongfang, as an official in charge of commercial affairs, is more accustomed to evaluating the pros and cons of a matter from an economic point of view.Therefore, in his view, the starting point of Haihan's strategy against Japan is very simple, which is to use the most cost-effective means to gradually control Japan's various fields, including war.
After hearing this, Zhu Zian already understood that the real purpose of the mission's visit to Japan was not to reach some trade agreement, or to help a small country like Ryukyu break away from the control of Satsuma. Everything was aimed at weakening Japan.Even if the Japanese shogunate hadn't promulgated the stupid and ridiculous lock-up order on their own, Haihan would try to close the country's gate for them, and add a few big locks by the way.
(End of this chapter)
Like the previous stops, Zhu Zian continued to participate in the mission's diplomatic activities in Edo as a clerk.However, he could clearly feel that his status as a member of the Ming royal family was not easy to use in Japan. Even if the other party knew that he was a child of the Zhu family, he did not seem to be surprised or respected like the Koreans.
This is of course not surprising. After all, one is a traditional vassal state of Ming Dynasty, while the other is an enemy country with a history of many wars. The views and attitudes of the two towards Ming are very different.I believe that the Japanese would be happy to interpret Zhu Zian's status in the Haihan Mission as a symbol of Ming's decline, and an opponent who has already fallen is certainly not worthy of their awe and respect.
However, in this way, Zhu Zian was also able to focus more on the game process between the two sides, observing how the Haihan Mission achieved its goal step by step.
Compared with North Korea, the Japanese shogunate is obviously not so easy to deal with. Even if the head of the shogunate is only a sick and weak boy, he has not succumbed to Haihan's pressure.The setbacks encountered by the mission in the restoration of Ryukyu to the country were also unprecedented. Zhu Zian wanted to see how these young officials could solve the current difficulties.
But to his disappointment, after a meeting and discussion within the mission, he quickly decided to put aside the restoration of the Ryukyu Kingdom in advance and let Shiro Amakusa of Sasebo follow up, and focus on other issues for now.Compared with the trade issues closely related to Haihan's interests, the future and fate of the Ryukyu Kingdom is obviously not that important, even if it is delayed for a while, it doesn't matter.
Besides, there was no representative of the Ryukyu Kingdom in the mission, and the outside world knew very little about the negotiation process with the shogunate. Even if the ideal result was not achieved in a short period of time, the Ryukyu Kingdom still had to be grateful to Haihan.Because at this time, except for Hai Han, no one will stand up for them. If they want to get rid of the control of Satsuma, Hai Han is the only straw.
What puzzled Zhu Zian was that since Haihan had a strong force and had a military base in Japan, why didn't he simply use military means to force the shogunate to submit? Instead, he spent time and energy using diplomatic means. Just wanted the shogunate to make some concessions on trade rules.
As usual, after he raised these questions, Shi Chengwu quickly responded.
"The cost of using military means is too high, so it can only be used as a guarantee measure. The differences between us and the shogunate are far from life-and-death. To be precise, the current situation is that cooperation outweighs differences. The fundamental reason for sitting together and negotiating." Shi Chengwu patiently explained to him.
Zhu Zian continued to ask: "Since we want to cooperate with the shogunate, why do we try to create a force that can fight against the shogunate? Is this the same strategy as Haihan used in North Korea?"
Shi Chengwu said: "It is similar, but the specific strategies are still very different. The resistance we encounter here is much greater than that of North Korea. Our parents told us that this country is extremely aggressive. If we do not suppress it, sooner or later it will become a confidant. Big trouble. So our strategy is to let Japan continue to fight internally, so that they will not have extra energy and resources to spend on external expansion, and we can also take this opportunity to gain greater influence here.”
Zhu Zi'an said: "Why don't you simply send out troops to destroy the country, and then merge it into the Haihan territory?"
Shi Chengwu said: "It's beyond the reach of the whip, and it's powerless. Taking over the traditional territory of the Central Plains Dynasty is our country's top priority at the moment. Overseas barbarians like Japan are not worthy of our concentrated army. Besides, we are gradually controlling its economy and finance through trade means. Slowly penetrate into the political and cultural fields, and indirect rule can also be realized in the future."
Zhu Zi'an said: "But it may take three to fifty years to see the effect. When our generation gets old, it may not be able to realize the scene you mentioned."
Shi Chengwu said: "So what's the matter? If we go back 30 years, who would have thought that today will be the world of our Haihan Kingdom, and who can really predict what it will be like 30 years from now? Said Maybe in another ten years or so, our national power will be a hundred times stronger than it is now, and Japan can be flattened by just stretching out a finger, so there is no need to dawdle."
Shi Chengwu was undoubtedly very optimistic about Haihan's future prospects, but after Zhu Zian heard it, he couldn't help but feel a little uncomfortable. Thirty years ago, it was the Great Ming Dynasty. At that time, who would have thought that the Ming Dynasty had come to an end and would soon be replaced by an unknown emerging force.
In less than 30 years since the founding of Haihan, it has already seized the Great Ming Dynasty and become the leading power in this region.With such a speed of development, it is really hard to imagine what the scene will be like in 30 years.
For the same question, Zhu Zian got a somewhat different answer from Tao Hongfang.
"It's very simple, because Japan is not worth it." Tao Hongfang's analysis angle is different from Shi Chengwu's: "The only valuable resource here is the population, but our country has already won the mainland, and there are inexhaustible resources. With an exhausted population, why is there any need to stare at this square inch of land? Whether it is garrison or trade, there is only one purpose, which is to lock its development space from the outside. You may think that it is time-consuming and labor-intensive to use diplomatic means to achieve the goal But this is precisely the most efficient way. Even if one day we have to use means of war, the Haihan army should not be fighting here."
Tao Hongfang is not very interested in Japan, but the imprint left by his father's education made him very clear about his attitude towards this country.On this point, the attitude of all officials of the mission must be the same.
Tao Hongfang, as an official in charge of commercial affairs, is more accustomed to evaluating the pros and cons of a matter from an economic point of view.Therefore, in his view, the starting point of Haihan's strategy against Japan is very simple, which is to use the most cost-effective means to gradually control Japan's various fields, including war.
After hearing this, Zhu Zian already understood that the real purpose of the mission's visit to Japan was not to reach some trade agreement, or to help a small country like Ryukyu break away from the control of Satsuma. Everything was aimed at weakening Japan.Even if the Japanese shogunate hadn't promulgated the stupid and ridiculous lock-up order on their own, Haihan would try to close the country's gate for them, and add a few big locks by the way.
(End of this chapter)