Chapter 2778
Chapter 2778
Chapter 2778
Turning Japan into an emerging arms sales market is one of Haihan's established goals at this stage.However, Haihan hopes to keep the armed forces of North Korea and Japan in balance, so as to promote the two countries to start a long-term arms race, so the arms sold to Japan will certainly not be significantly better than North Korea, and vice versa.No matter how high the Japanese bid is, it is unlikely to break through the limit set for this purpose.
Bai Letong said: "So far, North Korea is the country that has bought the most Type 700 flintlock guns and Type [-] field guns from our country. The deployment of these two weapons in the North Korean army has even exceeded An Nanguo, a traditional big buyer. If Japan wants to catch up with North Korea, it is estimated that it will have to prepare [-] million taels of silver just to buy these two weapons."
"However, given Japan's current situation, the formation of a large-scale army is actually not conducive to the defense of North Korea, so I don't think the shogunate will invest so much resources in the army. Masuyama Masatoshi's interest in army equipment is actually just To cover up, what the shogunate really wants to buy should be warships. The same budget is enough to build a small but decent armed fleet."
Ha Jianyi said: "But the Japanese only want to buy new ships, and they are unwilling to accept a long delivery period. This is not easy to handle."
Bai Letong said with a smile: "He still has room to put on airs, which means that the pressure he is under is not strong enough, and he has to use some means to increase the pressure."
Tao Hongfang said: "It seems that your old man has already figured out a way."
Bai Letong didn't deny it, nodded and said: "The envoy of Satsuma Domain has also arrived in Hangzhou."
"So fast?" Tao Hongfang was a little surprised, and immediately realized: "It should be General Amakusa who took measures in Japan, right?"
Bai Letong said: "I don't know what method General Amakusa used. In short, he persuaded the Satsuma clan to buy warships and weapons from our country."
Encouraging the Satsuma clan in the Kyushu region of Japan to strengthen military independence was originally one of the arms promotion methods they formulated during their visit to Japan.However, at that time the mission did not have direct contact with the Satsuma domain, but reported this idea to the executive committee, and suggested that the garrison at the Sasebo base contact the Satsuma domain.
It seems that after the mission returned to the country, Amakusa Shiro's contact with the Satsuma clan went very smoothly. The two hit it off, and the Satsuma clan sent an envoy to investigate and further communicate on the military purchase.
Tao Hongfang said, "Does the shogunate know the news?"
Bai Letong smiled and said, "Even if he doesn't know, we will find a way to let him know."
Ha Jianyi said: "But the Satsuma clan is only a local power after all. If you want to compete for financial resources, I'm afraid it's still far inferior to the shogunate. I don't know if it can achieve the effect we expect."
Ning Zijing said: "The Satsuma clan has also made a lot of money secretly doing cross-border trade through Ryukyu these years. I guess their financial resources should be almost the same as the Tsushima clan. It shouldn't be a problem to bite the bullet and buy a small fleet."
Bai Letong said: "The Satsuma clan doesn't actually need to form a large-scale armed fleet to fight against the shogunate, as long as the attack range can cover the nearby Nagasaki Port, the shogunate will not turn a blind eye to such a threat."
Tao Hongfang clapped his hands together and said, "In this way, those old ships that are about to be retired from the navy should also be able to sell for a good price."
Bai Letong nodded and smiled, "Exactly."
Zhu Zian has been silently listening to everyone's discussion. If he didn't have a clear understanding of this kind of transnational arms trade before, he already knew that behind this special trade was actually something more after he visited North Korea and Japan with the mission last time. All kinds of means are hidden.The operation process of this arms sale to Japan is also the actual embodiment of these means.
Haihan's operation of dragging the Satsuma clan into the water made Zhu Zi'an think that Haihan had done similar things to Daming in the early years.At the beginning, Haihan sold a large amount of arms to Xu Xinsu, the commander-in-chief of Fujian Province, and secretly supported Xu Xinsu to form a private army, forming a warlord force on one side of the separatist regime. The situation is similar to the current situation.
At that time, Xu Xinsu was also like the Satsuma clan. He accumulated a lot of wealth by relying on transnational trade. After forming an armed force with the help of Haihan, he began to stay away from the Ming court and became a local separatist force.It's not hard for Zhu Zian to imagine that if there is no accident, after a few years, this Satsuma clan will probably become a warlord like Xu Xinsu in Japan.
However, putting aside his standpoint and thinking about it, Zhu Zian felt that there was still a clear difference in Haihan's handling of the two.The main purpose of Haihan supporting Xu Xinsu is to weaken the control of Daming in the southeast coastal area, and he has no intention of letting Xu Xinsu stand on his own. He has always kept Fujian in the so-called "divided and undivided" until the Ming court bowed his head and surrendered. Officially took over the military and political power in Fujian.
However, Haihan's operations in Japan will obviously not be so "merciful".Zhu Zian has heard Tao Hongfang and others mention more than once that when the time is right, Japan will return to the state of vassal states during the Warring States Period. This should be the beginning of this attempt.And Haihan seems to have no interest in annexing Japan. This method of splitting Japan is purely to completely weaken the country so that it no longer poses a threat.
This has far surpassed Haihan's practice of dividing North Korea into two in order to exert control. Zhu Zian doesn't quite understand why Haihan, who made his fortune in the South China Sea, is so wary of Japan thousands of miles away, but If it can really eliminate Japan's ability to launch wars abroad, he would be happy to see it succeed.
"Zian, what do you think?"
Hearing Bai Letong ask himself, Zhu Zian came back from his contemplation, and replied in a deep voice: "This country has always known petty courtesy but no great righteousness, and feared power but not morality. It is true that we should take measures to weaken it. Its national strength. If you can use the arms trade to try to make the country fall apart and get tired of internal fighting, it is really the best strategy to subdue the enemy without fighting."
Ha Jianyi praised: "Zi'an is right, let's start with the Satsuma clan as a sample, and then slowly operate later, like the Tsushima clan and the Wawang faction who are regarded as puppets, they can all be supported object!"
Bai Letong said: "When there are more buyers in Japan, the shogunate will have no chance to negotiate with us. At that time, we will have to rush to buy any equipment, and maybe it will reappear in the past. The famous scene of bidding for arms with the Dutch East India Company in Sanya.”
In 1636, when the Netherlands and Mata Ramguo bid face-to-face for Haihan munitions, the few people present were only young children, so the famous scene of that year was only talked about by their parents when they grew up, and they were not lucky enough to experience it.But in the future, if the envoys sent by the daimyo from all over Japan to purchase arms gather in Hangzhou, they will have a real chance to witness the reappearance of the famous scene.
(End of this chapter)
Turning Japan into an emerging arms sales market is one of Haihan's established goals at this stage.However, Haihan hopes to keep the armed forces of North Korea and Japan in balance, so as to promote the two countries to start a long-term arms race, so the arms sold to Japan will certainly not be significantly better than North Korea, and vice versa.No matter how high the Japanese bid is, it is unlikely to break through the limit set for this purpose.
Bai Letong said: "So far, North Korea is the country that has bought the most Type 700 flintlock guns and Type [-] field guns from our country. The deployment of these two weapons in the North Korean army has even exceeded An Nanguo, a traditional big buyer. If Japan wants to catch up with North Korea, it is estimated that it will have to prepare [-] million taels of silver just to buy these two weapons."
"However, given Japan's current situation, the formation of a large-scale army is actually not conducive to the defense of North Korea, so I don't think the shogunate will invest so much resources in the army. Masuyama Masatoshi's interest in army equipment is actually just To cover up, what the shogunate really wants to buy should be warships. The same budget is enough to build a small but decent armed fleet."
Ha Jianyi said: "But the Japanese only want to buy new ships, and they are unwilling to accept a long delivery period. This is not easy to handle."
Bai Letong said with a smile: "He still has room to put on airs, which means that the pressure he is under is not strong enough, and he has to use some means to increase the pressure."
Tao Hongfang said: "It seems that your old man has already figured out a way."
Bai Letong didn't deny it, nodded and said: "The envoy of Satsuma Domain has also arrived in Hangzhou."
"So fast?" Tao Hongfang was a little surprised, and immediately realized: "It should be General Amakusa who took measures in Japan, right?"
Bai Letong said: "I don't know what method General Amakusa used. In short, he persuaded the Satsuma clan to buy warships and weapons from our country."
Encouraging the Satsuma clan in the Kyushu region of Japan to strengthen military independence was originally one of the arms promotion methods they formulated during their visit to Japan.However, at that time the mission did not have direct contact with the Satsuma domain, but reported this idea to the executive committee, and suggested that the garrison at the Sasebo base contact the Satsuma domain.
It seems that after the mission returned to the country, Amakusa Shiro's contact with the Satsuma clan went very smoothly. The two hit it off, and the Satsuma clan sent an envoy to investigate and further communicate on the military purchase.
Tao Hongfang said, "Does the shogunate know the news?"
Bai Letong smiled and said, "Even if he doesn't know, we will find a way to let him know."
Ha Jianyi said: "But the Satsuma clan is only a local power after all. If you want to compete for financial resources, I'm afraid it's still far inferior to the shogunate. I don't know if it can achieve the effect we expect."
Ning Zijing said: "The Satsuma clan has also made a lot of money secretly doing cross-border trade through Ryukyu these years. I guess their financial resources should be almost the same as the Tsushima clan. It shouldn't be a problem to bite the bullet and buy a small fleet."
Bai Letong said: "The Satsuma clan doesn't actually need to form a large-scale armed fleet to fight against the shogunate, as long as the attack range can cover the nearby Nagasaki Port, the shogunate will not turn a blind eye to such a threat."
Tao Hongfang clapped his hands together and said, "In this way, those old ships that are about to be retired from the navy should also be able to sell for a good price."
Bai Letong nodded and smiled, "Exactly."
Zhu Zian has been silently listening to everyone's discussion. If he didn't have a clear understanding of this kind of transnational arms trade before, he already knew that behind this special trade was actually something more after he visited North Korea and Japan with the mission last time. All kinds of means are hidden.The operation process of this arms sale to Japan is also the actual embodiment of these means.
Haihan's operation of dragging the Satsuma clan into the water made Zhu Zi'an think that Haihan had done similar things to Daming in the early years.At the beginning, Haihan sold a large amount of arms to Xu Xinsu, the commander-in-chief of Fujian Province, and secretly supported Xu Xinsu to form a private army, forming a warlord force on one side of the separatist regime. The situation is similar to the current situation.
At that time, Xu Xinsu was also like the Satsuma clan. He accumulated a lot of wealth by relying on transnational trade. After forming an armed force with the help of Haihan, he began to stay away from the Ming court and became a local separatist force.It's not hard for Zhu Zian to imagine that if there is no accident, after a few years, this Satsuma clan will probably become a warlord like Xu Xinsu in Japan.
However, putting aside his standpoint and thinking about it, Zhu Zian felt that there was still a clear difference in Haihan's handling of the two.The main purpose of Haihan supporting Xu Xinsu is to weaken the control of Daming in the southeast coastal area, and he has no intention of letting Xu Xinsu stand on his own. He has always kept Fujian in the so-called "divided and undivided" until the Ming court bowed his head and surrendered. Officially took over the military and political power in Fujian.
However, Haihan's operations in Japan will obviously not be so "merciful".Zhu Zian has heard Tao Hongfang and others mention more than once that when the time is right, Japan will return to the state of vassal states during the Warring States Period. This should be the beginning of this attempt.And Haihan seems to have no interest in annexing Japan. This method of splitting Japan is purely to completely weaken the country so that it no longer poses a threat.
This has far surpassed Haihan's practice of dividing North Korea into two in order to exert control. Zhu Zian doesn't quite understand why Haihan, who made his fortune in the South China Sea, is so wary of Japan thousands of miles away, but If it can really eliminate Japan's ability to launch wars abroad, he would be happy to see it succeed.
"Zian, what do you think?"
Hearing Bai Letong ask himself, Zhu Zian came back from his contemplation, and replied in a deep voice: "This country has always known petty courtesy but no great righteousness, and feared power but not morality. It is true that we should take measures to weaken it. Its national strength. If you can use the arms trade to try to make the country fall apart and get tired of internal fighting, it is really the best strategy to subdue the enemy without fighting."
Ha Jianyi praised: "Zi'an is right, let's start with the Satsuma clan as a sample, and then slowly operate later, like the Tsushima clan and the Wawang faction who are regarded as puppets, they can all be supported object!"
Bai Letong said: "When there are more buyers in Japan, the shogunate will have no chance to negotiate with us. At that time, we will have to rush to buy any equipment, and maybe it will reappear in the past. The famous scene of bidding for arms with the Dutch East India Company in Sanya.”
In 1636, when the Netherlands and Mata Ramguo bid face-to-face for Haihan munitions, the few people present were only young children, so the famous scene of that year was only talked about by their parents when they grew up, and they were not lucky enough to experience it.But in the future, if the envoys sent by the daimyo from all over Japan to purchase arms gather in Hangzhou, they will have a real chance to witness the reappearance of the famous scene.
(End of this chapter)