Chapter 1331
Each has a plan
Chapter 1331 Each has a plan
"To promote peace? Manila and Hainan Island are separated by the entire South China Sea, and there is no material supply point in between. If we rashly launch an offensive against Manila, wouldn't it be too risky?" Ning Qi asked immediately. Yan Chujie raised objections to his opinion.
In the past two years, Haihan put most of his energy on opening up the northern route of Ming Dynasty, and the expansion to the south only focused on the development of Xingdao and Bangka Belitung Islands.As for the Philippine Islands controlled by the Spaniards, Haihan only sent a small number of intelligence personnel to lurk there, and did not take real military measures to contain or attack them.
This is not because Haihan looks down on the areas occupied by Spain, or ignores Spain's presence in the South China Sea. On the contrary, it is because Haihan is quite afraid of Spain and does not want to further intensify the existing conflicts. In the short term, there is no intention to expand the control area to the Pacific Ocean, so there is no need to force yourself to establish a strong enemy in the east.In the long run, the two sides are indeed rivals, but Haihan at least has no initiative to take military action against Manila.
Considering the nature of this war, it is reasonable for Haihan, as the victor, to take some revenge measures against the Manila authorities. However, at this time, he has to consider the limitations of the objective environment. The geographical environment is not familiar, and the risk of conducting such long-distance cross-sea operations will be quite high. As far as the current preparations are concerned, I am afraid that it is not much different from the Spaniards who came to Sanya blindfolded.That's why Ning Qi felt that the military's attitude was too radical, and quickly raised his voice against it.
Yan Chujie said: "No, no, listen to me first. What I said is to promote peace. I don't specifically refer to attacking Manila, but to launch operations at sea and limit the range of activities of Spanish ships. As long as it can cut off the north and south The Spaniards will soon be overwhelmed by the commercial routes."
Ning Qi said: "The problem is that these sea routes are not so easy to cut off. How many fleets do we have to send to the distant seas to perform such missions? Does our fleet have enough combat endurance? If the fleet needs to cruise at sea for a long time Blockade mission, how do we maintain such a long supply line?"
Ning Qi’s series of questions are basically on point. The straight-line distance between Manila and Hainan Island is more than 700 nautical miles, and the distance between overseas colonies controlled by Haihan rarely exceeds [-] nautical miles. It has surpassed the voyage between Zhoushan, Zhejiang and Zhifu Island, Shandong, two overseas bases.Except for some small islands and reefs in the South China Sea, there are basically no large areas of land. Long-term sea cruising will indeed face difficulties in supply.
Spain's plan to attack Sanya this time was also limited by this objective condition, so it tried to use a quick-fix tactic, but in the end it still failed.And if Haihan wants to find another way to engage in a protracted war, the problem of supplies will only be more difficult than that of his opponent.
As the Minister of Defense of Haihan, Yan Chujie has commanded quite a lot of battles, large and small, in the past eight years. With his combat experience, could it be that he can't consider such a simple question?Ning Qi would not underestimate Yan Chujie's level so much, he thought that the other party proposed this plan with many loopholes, but it actually had another purpose.For example, to use this to propose to the executive committee to expand the naval establishment, increase the number of warships planned to be built, and so on.
Sure enough, Yan Chujie replied with a serious face: "Minister Ning's words are also reasonable. At this stage, our naval strength does still have many shortcomings. It does not mean that after winning this battle, we will be invincible in the South China Sea." Yes, there will still be many places beyond our reach. Therefore, in order to avoid such a situation, I think the establishment of the navy still needs to be further expanded, especially an armed fleet with long-range combat capabilities and long-term sea endurance capabilities. The main direction of the development of our country's navy in the past few years. There are some relatively long-term preparations, which can be gradually implemented now."
Ning Qi thought to himself that this is what you really wanted to say, but he didn’t want Yan Chujie to use his statement as a topic so easily, so he shook his head and said, “Old Yan, your words are clichés, expanding the army Of course, it is an inevitable measure in the process of national growth, but it does not mean that every time you come out, your military has a development plan, and the executive committee has also approved the military expenditures that should be allocated on an annual basis. If you find a reason to apply for additional military expenditures, you will be fine. Can't say enough."
Yan Chujie was found out by Ning Qi, but he didn't look ashamed. He continued to talk eloquently: "The Spanish invasion this time was an emergency, and we didn't have such a drama in our plan. Although we are We won the battle, but the Spaniards have also sounded the alarm for us. Even though our existing force is already the strongest in the region, we still cannot stop the enemy from coming to our door. So in the current international environment, seven or eight The radius of [-] nautical miles is not absolutely safe. We need to ensure that the combat radius of the naval fleet can reach this level, so as to maintain sufficient deterrence against those with ulterior motives like Spain, and our existing fleet is obviously out of reach. standards, so I will propose a new development plan.”
Ning Qi didn't answer immediately, but glanced at Gu Kai who was sitting across from him, seeing that his expression was also gloomy.It may be just a coincidence that the Ministry of Security and the Ministry of National Defense successively proposed to change the current situation at today's post-war summary meeting, but it is also possible that He Xi and Yan Chujie had reached some tacit agreement beforehand.The Ministry of Security and the Ministry of National Defense they manage have always had many in-depth cooperation projects in the fields of security and intelligence. They can be said to be natural allies politically, but they will naturally spare no effort to promote where there is some need for help.
And Ning Qi and Gu Kai are not political allies. In fact, there are still quite a lot of political differences between them, but they are more consistent in their views on the power restrictions of the military and security departments, and they believe that there must be strict supervision. Mechanisms are used to limit the development of these privileged departments and violent institutions, so as to prevent the power under their control from being too inflated and gradually separated from the management of the Executive Committee.At that time, a bunch of civilian bureaucrats sitting in their offices governing the country in Fort Victory will no longer be able to maintain a political balance with the privileged military and intelligence agencies.
Gu Kai and Ning Qi met each other's eyes, and said understandingly: "Of course, Lao Yan wants to propose a plan, but please come up with a specific written manuscript and send it to the executive committee to arrange a special meeting for discussion. But today's The main purpose of the meeting is the post-war summary, and I think that some irrelevant topics should not occupy the precious time of this meeting. Back to business, let’s discuss the placement and handling of prisoners of war!”
Gu Kai believed that the proposals of the military and the Ministry of Security were all temporary ideas, and he probably hadn't prepared the corresponding written materials. To continue discussing this at this time, in fact, He Xi and Yan Chujie were here to make a sense of presence.So he interrupted resolutely, and used a dragging tactic to bring the topic over first, so as not to let Yan Chujie continue to play on it.
Yan Chujie laughed dryly, but he didn't force the topic to continue, so he followed Gu Kai's intention and returned to the previous serious topic.
There is actually not much discussion value about the placement of prisoners of war. After experiencing many foreign wars, Haihan has a relatively mature routine for handling prisoners of war, and the division of labor and cooperation between various departments is relatively clear.Even if the target is a Spaniard this time, there is nothing special about it, just follow the routine of handling prisoners of war in the past.Those who should be taken into custody, those who should be sent to hard labor camps, will be sent away, and some craftsmen who can be retained will be assigned to corresponding labor units to take up employment as soon as possible after finding out the details and not having too many bad deeds.
The remaining small number of prisoners of war who were to be exchanged for ransom and war compensation had to be well-fed first, and the injuries that needed to be treated had to be treated. If they died in the prisoner-of-war camp, it would be a real loss of money.
Schneider came up with a claim plan that he had drawn up overnight, planning to claim 300 million Spanish silver coins from the Manila authorities for the Spanish fleet's attack on Sanya.Of course, this number is only a unilaterally proposed standard. In terms of the actual military expenditure of Haihan's battle, it can be said that the lion opened his mouth. Schneider can't be sure that the other party will definitely agree. In the end, he still has to count back and forth. Negotiations to resolve slowly.
Fortunately, the voyage between Sanya and Manila is not too exaggerated. If the British prisoners of war captured in Xingdao were dealing with post-war affairs, just sending a letter to the British base in India, the round-trip voyage can be counted in months. After several rounds of bargaining, it may take until next year to get a result.
Schneider has handled similar war claim matters many times in the past, and he is relatively familiar with the process and standards, so everyone does not have much objection to his operation plan.Moreover, Schneider is a financial expert in the executive committee, and it is difficult for others to put forward more reasonable opinions from the professional field.
Of course, the most embarrassing operation is that the official letter written by Schneider to the Governor of Manila is in Spanish. It is difficult for anyone to imitate this skill.In addition, this letter also specifically attached the positions and autographs of the currently captured Spanish commanders to confirm that these people are still alive.
Schneider's only concern is that the official and military positions of these personnel are generally not too high, and they are not the leaders of the fleet. It is really difficult to judge how determined the Manila authorities will spend money to redeem them.So although he put forward a relatively high claim amount in the letter, he still left room for bargaining. As long as the other party is not a fool, he should be able to understand his hint.
When the high-ranking officials of Haihan discussed how to deal with the prisoners of war, these humanoid self-propelled chips had already started working in the prisoner-of-war camp.Due to the large number of prisoners of war, the detention facilities at the naval base simply could not hold so many people, so they were temporarily placed in the vacated army barracks, but this treatment lasted less than 24 hours before it was cancelled.An interpreter told them in not-so-fluent Spanish that they had to build a prisoner-of-war camp on their own next, otherwise the next period of detention would be nothing but nothing.
Except for a few disabled wounded, the vast majority of prisoners of war were organized. After the distribution of labor tools, they began to dig drainage ditches and septic tanks, build dry toilets, set up tents, and build barbed wire isolation belts in the prisoner-of-war camps.Although this arrangement unavoidably attracted complaints from some prisoners of war, most of them obediently picked up tools and followed the instructions, because the prisoners of war knew very well that if the Haihan people decided to execute them, there would be no need to spend so much time. Kind of work.Now that a temporary prisoner-of-war camp is going to be built, at least it means that they can save their lives for the time being.
However, the few officers and prisoners of war knew very well the reason why the Haihan people made such an arrangement. They had already signed their names on the letter requesting compensation during the interrogation yesterday.As long as the negotiations between Haihan and the Manila authorities do not break down, they can live well.And this kind of negotiation will not be able to reach an agreement for a while, so such a temporary detention camp is also very necessary.Of course, not all the people who are imprisoned here will have the opportunity to return to Manila. After all, the ones who can get the authorities to pay a ransom in exchange for freedom will definitely not be those stinky sailors.
Two days after the battle ended, the Haihan Times finally published a special issue on the situation of the battle. The thousand copies of the special issue for the public were sold out almost instantly, under the strong demand of the public , Another [-] copies were printed and put on the market that afternoon, but they were also sold out.
Due to the nature of his work, Liu Shang saw this special issue immediately, and he also participated in the compilation of some of its contents. Seeing these contents printed and published in newspapers, he had mixed feelings for a while.As an intelligence officer of Ming Dynasty, I lurked in Sanya in order to collect military and political information about Haihan, but now I became a staff member of Haihan's propaganda department by accident, and even wrote articles to promote Haihan's military strength. The mouthpiece for cheering for Haihan officials.He originally came here to overthrow Haihan, but now he is working for Haihan's officialdom. This strange sense of dislocation made him not know how to position himself in his current situation.
The most frightening thing is not to brag about this matter for Hai Han, but to believe it himself after bragging.After seeing the actual operation of so many places in Haihan, the exercises of the Haihan army and this actual battle, and the attitude of the people of Haihan towards the war, Liu Shang really didn't dare to have too much confidence in Daming's recovery of Hainan Island. hoped.
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"To promote peace? Manila and Hainan Island are separated by the entire South China Sea, and there is no material supply point in between. If we rashly launch an offensive against Manila, wouldn't it be too risky?" Ning Qi asked immediately. Yan Chujie raised objections to his opinion.
In the past two years, Haihan put most of his energy on opening up the northern route of Ming Dynasty, and the expansion to the south only focused on the development of Xingdao and Bangka Belitung Islands.As for the Philippine Islands controlled by the Spaniards, Haihan only sent a small number of intelligence personnel to lurk there, and did not take real military measures to contain or attack them.
This is not because Haihan looks down on the areas occupied by Spain, or ignores Spain's presence in the South China Sea. On the contrary, it is because Haihan is quite afraid of Spain and does not want to further intensify the existing conflicts. In the short term, there is no intention to expand the control area to the Pacific Ocean, so there is no need to force yourself to establish a strong enemy in the east.In the long run, the two sides are indeed rivals, but Haihan at least has no initiative to take military action against Manila.
Considering the nature of this war, it is reasonable for Haihan, as the victor, to take some revenge measures against the Manila authorities. However, at this time, he has to consider the limitations of the objective environment. The geographical environment is not familiar, and the risk of conducting such long-distance cross-sea operations will be quite high. As far as the current preparations are concerned, I am afraid that it is not much different from the Spaniards who came to Sanya blindfolded.That's why Ning Qi felt that the military's attitude was too radical, and quickly raised his voice against it.
Yan Chujie said: "No, no, listen to me first. What I said is to promote peace. I don't specifically refer to attacking Manila, but to launch operations at sea and limit the range of activities of Spanish ships. As long as it can cut off the north and south The Spaniards will soon be overwhelmed by the commercial routes."
Ning Qi said: "The problem is that these sea routes are not so easy to cut off. How many fleets do we have to send to the distant seas to perform such missions? Does our fleet have enough combat endurance? If the fleet needs to cruise at sea for a long time Blockade mission, how do we maintain such a long supply line?"
Ning Qi’s series of questions are basically on point. The straight-line distance between Manila and Hainan Island is more than 700 nautical miles, and the distance between overseas colonies controlled by Haihan rarely exceeds [-] nautical miles. It has surpassed the voyage between Zhoushan, Zhejiang and Zhifu Island, Shandong, two overseas bases.Except for some small islands and reefs in the South China Sea, there are basically no large areas of land. Long-term sea cruising will indeed face difficulties in supply.
Spain's plan to attack Sanya this time was also limited by this objective condition, so it tried to use a quick-fix tactic, but in the end it still failed.And if Haihan wants to find another way to engage in a protracted war, the problem of supplies will only be more difficult than that of his opponent.
As the Minister of Defense of Haihan, Yan Chujie has commanded quite a lot of battles, large and small, in the past eight years. With his combat experience, could it be that he can't consider such a simple question?Ning Qi would not underestimate Yan Chujie's level so much, he thought that the other party proposed this plan with many loopholes, but it actually had another purpose.For example, to use this to propose to the executive committee to expand the naval establishment, increase the number of warships planned to be built, and so on.
Sure enough, Yan Chujie replied with a serious face: "Minister Ning's words are also reasonable. At this stage, our naval strength does still have many shortcomings. It does not mean that after winning this battle, we will be invincible in the South China Sea." Yes, there will still be many places beyond our reach. Therefore, in order to avoid such a situation, I think the establishment of the navy still needs to be further expanded, especially an armed fleet with long-range combat capabilities and long-term sea endurance capabilities. The main direction of the development of our country's navy in the past few years. There are some relatively long-term preparations, which can be gradually implemented now."
Ning Qi thought to himself that this is what you really wanted to say, but he didn’t want Yan Chujie to use his statement as a topic so easily, so he shook his head and said, “Old Yan, your words are clichés, expanding the army Of course, it is an inevitable measure in the process of national growth, but it does not mean that every time you come out, your military has a development plan, and the executive committee has also approved the military expenditures that should be allocated on an annual basis. If you find a reason to apply for additional military expenditures, you will be fine. Can't say enough."
Yan Chujie was found out by Ning Qi, but he didn't look ashamed. He continued to talk eloquently: "The Spanish invasion this time was an emergency, and we didn't have such a drama in our plan. Although we are We won the battle, but the Spaniards have also sounded the alarm for us. Even though our existing force is already the strongest in the region, we still cannot stop the enemy from coming to our door. So in the current international environment, seven or eight The radius of [-] nautical miles is not absolutely safe. We need to ensure that the combat radius of the naval fleet can reach this level, so as to maintain sufficient deterrence against those with ulterior motives like Spain, and our existing fleet is obviously out of reach. standards, so I will propose a new development plan.”
Ning Qi didn't answer immediately, but glanced at Gu Kai who was sitting across from him, seeing that his expression was also gloomy.It may be just a coincidence that the Ministry of Security and the Ministry of National Defense successively proposed to change the current situation at today's post-war summary meeting, but it is also possible that He Xi and Yan Chujie had reached some tacit agreement beforehand.The Ministry of Security and the Ministry of National Defense they manage have always had many in-depth cooperation projects in the fields of security and intelligence. They can be said to be natural allies politically, but they will naturally spare no effort to promote where there is some need for help.
And Ning Qi and Gu Kai are not political allies. In fact, there are still quite a lot of political differences between them, but they are more consistent in their views on the power restrictions of the military and security departments, and they believe that there must be strict supervision. Mechanisms are used to limit the development of these privileged departments and violent institutions, so as to prevent the power under their control from being too inflated and gradually separated from the management of the Executive Committee.At that time, a bunch of civilian bureaucrats sitting in their offices governing the country in Fort Victory will no longer be able to maintain a political balance with the privileged military and intelligence agencies.
Gu Kai and Ning Qi met each other's eyes, and said understandingly: "Of course, Lao Yan wants to propose a plan, but please come up with a specific written manuscript and send it to the executive committee to arrange a special meeting for discussion. But today's The main purpose of the meeting is the post-war summary, and I think that some irrelevant topics should not occupy the precious time of this meeting. Back to business, let’s discuss the placement and handling of prisoners of war!”
Gu Kai believed that the proposals of the military and the Ministry of Security were all temporary ideas, and he probably hadn't prepared the corresponding written materials. To continue discussing this at this time, in fact, He Xi and Yan Chujie were here to make a sense of presence.So he interrupted resolutely, and used a dragging tactic to bring the topic over first, so as not to let Yan Chujie continue to play on it.
Yan Chujie laughed dryly, but he didn't force the topic to continue, so he followed Gu Kai's intention and returned to the previous serious topic.
There is actually not much discussion value about the placement of prisoners of war. After experiencing many foreign wars, Haihan has a relatively mature routine for handling prisoners of war, and the division of labor and cooperation between various departments is relatively clear.Even if the target is a Spaniard this time, there is nothing special about it, just follow the routine of handling prisoners of war in the past.Those who should be taken into custody, those who should be sent to hard labor camps, will be sent away, and some craftsmen who can be retained will be assigned to corresponding labor units to take up employment as soon as possible after finding out the details and not having too many bad deeds.
The remaining small number of prisoners of war who were to be exchanged for ransom and war compensation had to be well-fed first, and the injuries that needed to be treated had to be treated. If they died in the prisoner-of-war camp, it would be a real loss of money.
Schneider came up with a claim plan that he had drawn up overnight, planning to claim 300 million Spanish silver coins from the Manila authorities for the Spanish fleet's attack on Sanya.Of course, this number is only a unilaterally proposed standard. In terms of the actual military expenditure of Haihan's battle, it can be said that the lion opened his mouth. Schneider can't be sure that the other party will definitely agree. In the end, he still has to count back and forth. Negotiations to resolve slowly.
Fortunately, the voyage between Sanya and Manila is not too exaggerated. If the British prisoners of war captured in Xingdao were dealing with post-war affairs, just sending a letter to the British base in India, the round-trip voyage can be counted in months. After several rounds of bargaining, it may take until next year to get a result.
Schneider has handled similar war claim matters many times in the past, and he is relatively familiar with the process and standards, so everyone does not have much objection to his operation plan.Moreover, Schneider is a financial expert in the executive committee, and it is difficult for others to put forward more reasonable opinions from the professional field.
Of course, the most embarrassing operation is that the official letter written by Schneider to the Governor of Manila is in Spanish. It is difficult for anyone to imitate this skill.In addition, this letter also specifically attached the positions and autographs of the currently captured Spanish commanders to confirm that these people are still alive.
Schneider's only concern is that the official and military positions of these personnel are generally not too high, and they are not the leaders of the fleet. It is really difficult to judge how determined the Manila authorities will spend money to redeem them.So although he put forward a relatively high claim amount in the letter, he still left room for bargaining. As long as the other party is not a fool, he should be able to understand his hint.
When the high-ranking officials of Haihan discussed how to deal with the prisoners of war, these humanoid self-propelled chips had already started working in the prisoner-of-war camp.Due to the large number of prisoners of war, the detention facilities at the naval base simply could not hold so many people, so they were temporarily placed in the vacated army barracks, but this treatment lasted less than 24 hours before it was cancelled.An interpreter told them in not-so-fluent Spanish that they had to build a prisoner-of-war camp on their own next, otherwise the next period of detention would be nothing but nothing.
Except for a few disabled wounded, the vast majority of prisoners of war were organized. After the distribution of labor tools, they began to dig drainage ditches and septic tanks, build dry toilets, set up tents, and build barbed wire isolation belts in the prisoner-of-war camps.Although this arrangement unavoidably attracted complaints from some prisoners of war, most of them obediently picked up tools and followed the instructions, because the prisoners of war knew very well that if the Haihan people decided to execute them, there would be no need to spend so much time. Kind of work.Now that a temporary prisoner-of-war camp is going to be built, at least it means that they can save their lives for the time being.
However, the few officers and prisoners of war knew very well the reason why the Haihan people made such an arrangement. They had already signed their names on the letter requesting compensation during the interrogation yesterday.As long as the negotiations between Haihan and the Manila authorities do not break down, they can live well.And this kind of negotiation will not be able to reach an agreement for a while, so such a temporary detention camp is also very necessary.Of course, not all the people who are imprisoned here will have the opportunity to return to Manila. After all, the ones who can get the authorities to pay a ransom in exchange for freedom will definitely not be those stinky sailors.
Two days after the battle ended, the Haihan Times finally published a special issue on the situation of the battle. The thousand copies of the special issue for the public were sold out almost instantly, under the strong demand of the public , Another [-] copies were printed and put on the market that afternoon, but they were also sold out.
Due to the nature of his work, Liu Shang saw this special issue immediately, and he also participated in the compilation of some of its contents. Seeing these contents printed and published in newspapers, he had mixed feelings for a while.As an intelligence officer of Ming Dynasty, I lurked in Sanya in order to collect military and political information about Haihan, but now I became a staff member of Haihan's propaganda department by accident, and even wrote articles to promote Haihan's military strength. The mouthpiece for cheering for Haihan officials.He originally came here to overthrow Haihan, but now he is working for Haihan's officialdom. This strange sense of dislocation made him not know how to position himself in his current situation.
The most frightening thing is not to brag about this matter for Hai Han, but to believe it himself after bragging.After seeing the actual operation of so many places in Haihan, the exercises of the Haihan army and this actual battle, and the attitude of the people of Haihan towards the war, Liu Shang really didn't dare to have too much confidence in Daming's recovery of Hainan Island. hoped.
(End of this chapter)