Chapter 2772
Chapter 2772
Chapter 2772
"A prerequisite?" Zhu Zian was stunned, and immediately asked back: "Brother Shi is referring to the cooperation of the Ming court?"
Shi Chengwu nodded and said: "Over the years, more than half of the goods transported by water to the north are public grains and tributes. For us, if we organize the transportation capacity to go directly to Shuntianfu by sea, the transportation tasks for the water transportation will be reduced a lot, and the process of our transformation of the water transportation system will be easier."
As Zhu Zian said earlier, inland water transportation, especially the Beijing-Hangzhou Grand Canal water system that runs through the north and south, is actually a transportation project specially built by various dynasties to maintain their rule in the Central Plains. The main users and beneficiaries are not the people along the coast. It is not the waterworks officials engaged in water transportation, but the rulers of the past dynasties.
The current ruling area of Haihan does not rely on the water transport system. The real stakeholder is actually the Ming court. If the transportation tasks originally undertaken by water transport are to be transferred to sea routes, the approval and cooperation of the Ming court is bound to be required.
Zhu Zian said: "If Haihan can provide a safe and convenient shipping channel, surely the Ming court will not refuse, right?"
Shi Chengwu said with a smile: "But this is exactly the problem. We have discussed this with the Ming court many times, and proposed to replace part of the water transport with sea transport, but we have not received a positive response. My personal opinion, the Ming court It should be that they are not willing to hand over the relevant transportation tasks to our country."
Ning Zijing continued this conversation and added: "The Cao Mansion has been greedy for so much money and supplies by deceiving its superiors and inferiors over the years. I think it should be impossible to monopolize these benefits. There must be a considerable part of the benefits. It was paid to certain officials in the imperial court. I can boldly guess that most of those yamen who are unwilling to accept the change are also those with vested interests in the old water transportation method, and the resistance from the Ming court mainly comes from these places."
Tao Hongfang also nodded and commented: "The six ministries of the Ming court are almost all related to the water transport affairs. I think the voices against cooperation with our country should come from these yamen."
Although Zhu Zian is a child of the royal family, but Prince De's Mansion is not in the capital, he can count the number of times he has been to the capital on one hand since he was a child, so he is not familiar with the affairs of the court, but can only be regarded as having common sense.However, after listening to several people's comments, he faintly felt that what the other party said made sense.
If this matter is beneficial to Daming, why did Daming refuse the transportation conditions offered by Haihan?If it was because of a lack of trust in Haihan, and he was worried that Haihan would use supplies to come to Kamingting's neck, then Haihan didn't need to bother so much. As long as he controlled the source of food in the Jiangsu and Zhejiang regions and did not give Mingting the opportunity to raise food, he would be fine. Enough for the purpose.
In this way, the deep-seated reason for the Ming court’s opposition to cooperating with Haihan on water transport matters may be partly to preserve self-interest.
The Ming Dynasty abolished Zhongshu Province, the highest institution dealing with government affairs, and assigned government affairs to six ministries of officials, households, rites, soldiers, criminals, and workers.Among them, the Ministry of Officials is in charge of the appointment and removal of officials, the Ministry of Households is in charge of the entry and exit of money and food, the Ministry of Punishment is in charge of illegal inspections, the Ministry of Industry is in charge of construction, and the Ministry of War is originally one of the participants in water transport. Among the six ministries that have no obvious direct interest in water transport, probably only It's just the Ministry of Rites.
Will the six government offices not know about the ills of the water transportation system?The answer is of course no.However, these yamen were either related to interests, or were constrained by other yamen, and in the end they all chose to close their eyes and connive at Caofu's behavior. Obviously, they should all be responsible for the current situation.
Having said that, if these yamen are not willing to cooperate, it will indeed take a lot of trouble for Haihan to forcibly change water transportation to sea transportation.Zhu Zian also gradually understood why everyone from Li Qingyang to his friends kept away from the idea of meddling in water transport affairs.Since the chaos in the water transportation system had little direct impact on Haihan, why did Haihan take the risk of affecting the capital relocation plan and take the initiative to do thankless things.
Thinking of this episode, Zhu Zian couldn't help but feel a little frustrated. He already knew the crux of the matter and had a corresponding solution, but he just couldn't implement it. He could only watch the system continue to rot.
Shi Chengwu saw through his thoughts, and persuaded with a smile: "Zian, at the end of a dynasty, it is often riddled with holes and countless problems. The water transportation is just one of them. And it has not been solved for hundreds of years. As for the problem, you should not expect to be able to coordinate all aspects and let things develop in the direction you expect by issuing a few official documents in the yamen."
Tao Hongfang also persuaded: "The Special Liaison Office can manage many things, but not every case involved will have an ideal result. The main purpose is to maintain communication with the Ming court and try to avoid misunderstandings and conflicts. Shipped to There is no need to blame my own lack of ability for the problem of water transportation that cannot be solved temporarily."
Hearing the two people's comfort, Zhu Zian calmed down a bit, and he clasped his hands and said: "You two are right. From the beginning of taking office, you wanted to make achievements as soon as possible. It was a bit too hasty. We still have to wait for the right time for the water transportation. Only then can we take a radical cure. I will also quote everyone’s opinions and write opinions on how to deal with it later.”
After talking about Zhu Zian's work, everyone quickly shifted the topic to another major event that is currently going on in Hangzhou, which is the arms trade negotiation between Haihan and the shogunate envoy.
Everyone present participated in the activities of visiting Japan, and they were all insiders about the arms trade, so there was no need to keep it secret.And Bai Letong, who was unable to attend today's gathering, was also accompanying his father Bai Kesi to participate in this negotiation.
"Two days ago, Zengshan Zhengli was arranged to go to the mountains in the south of the city to observe the gun drill, but he was very greedy. After shooting the target, the weapons were touched one by one. I really wanted to put them in my pocket immediately. Take it away!" Shi Chengwu talked about the anecdote of taking the shogunate envoys to watch the live ammunition drill, and immediately made everyone laugh.
Although Japan also has the ability to make its own firearms and artillery, its military engineering level is still at a relatively primitive stage, and the performance of its weapons is significantly different from that of Haihan's equipment.As early as on the way back from their visit to Japan, everyone had imagined that live ammunition drills would be used to deter the shogunate envoys, and now it seems that they have indeed received the expected results.
"Then how much does he plan to buy?" Ha Jianyi asked curiously.
Shi Chengwu said: "Then I'm afraid we have to see how much budget the shogunate has prepared for this."
(End of this chapter)
"A prerequisite?" Zhu Zian was stunned, and immediately asked back: "Brother Shi is referring to the cooperation of the Ming court?"
Shi Chengwu nodded and said: "Over the years, more than half of the goods transported by water to the north are public grains and tributes. For us, if we organize the transportation capacity to go directly to Shuntianfu by sea, the transportation tasks for the water transportation will be reduced a lot, and the process of our transformation of the water transportation system will be easier."
As Zhu Zian said earlier, inland water transportation, especially the Beijing-Hangzhou Grand Canal water system that runs through the north and south, is actually a transportation project specially built by various dynasties to maintain their rule in the Central Plains. The main users and beneficiaries are not the people along the coast. It is not the waterworks officials engaged in water transportation, but the rulers of the past dynasties.
The current ruling area of Haihan does not rely on the water transport system. The real stakeholder is actually the Ming court. If the transportation tasks originally undertaken by water transport are to be transferred to sea routes, the approval and cooperation of the Ming court is bound to be required.
Zhu Zian said: "If Haihan can provide a safe and convenient shipping channel, surely the Ming court will not refuse, right?"
Shi Chengwu said with a smile: "But this is exactly the problem. We have discussed this with the Ming court many times, and proposed to replace part of the water transport with sea transport, but we have not received a positive response. My personal opinion, the Ming court It should be that they are not willing to hand over the relevant transportation tasks to our country."
Ning Zijing continued this conversation and added: "The Cao Mansion has been greedy for so much money and supplies by deceiving its superiors and inferiors over the years. I think it should be impossible to monopolize these benefits. There must be a considerable part of the benefits. It was paid to certain officials in the imperial court. I can boldly guess that most of those yamen who are unwilling to accept the change are also those with vested interests in the old water transportation method, and the resistance from the Ming court mainly comes from these places."
Tao Hongfang also nodded and commented: "The six ministries of the Ming court are almost all related to the water transport affairs. I think the voices against cooperation with our country should come from these yamen."
Although Zhu Zian is a child of the royal family, but Prince De's Mansion is not in the capital, he can count the number of times he has been to the capital on one hand since he was a child, so he is not familiar with the affairs of the court, but can only be regarded as having common sense.However, after listening to several people's comments, he faintly felt that what the other party said made sense.
If this matter is beneficial to Daming, why did Daming refuse the transportation conditions offered by Haihan?If it was because of a lack of trust in Haihan, and he was worried that Haihan would use supplies to come to Kamingting's neck, then Haihan didn't need to bother so much. As long as he controlled the source of food in the Jiangsu and Zhejiang regions and did not give Mingting the opportunity to raise food, he would be fine. Enough for the purpose.
In this way, the deep-seated reason for the Ming court’s opposition to cooperating with Haihan on water transport matters may be partly to preserve self-interest.
The Ming Dynasty abolished Zhongshu Province, the highest institution dealing with government affairs, and assigned government affairs to six ministries of officials, households, rites, soldiers, criminals, and workers.Among them, the Ministry of Officials is in charge of the appointment and removal of officials, the Ministry of Households is in charge of the entry and exit of money and food, the Ministry of Punishment is in charge of illegal inspections, the Ministry of Industry is in charge of construction, and the Ministry of War is originally one of the participants in water transport. Among the six ministries that have no obvious direct interest in water transport, probably only It's just the Ministry of Rites.
Will the six government offices not know about the ills of the water transportation system?The answer is of course no.However, these yamen were either related to interests, or were constrained by other yamen, and in the end they all chose to close their eyes and connive at Caofu's behavior. Obviously, they should all be responsible for the current situation.
Having said that, if these yamen are not willing to cooperate, it will indeed take a lot of trouble for Haihan to forcibly change water transportation to sea transportation.Zhu Zian also gradually understood why everyone from Li Qingyang to his friends kept away from the idea of meddling in water transport affairs.Since the chaos in the water transportation system had little direct impact on Haihan, why did Haihan take the risk of affecting the capital relocation plan and take the initiative to do thankless things.
Thinking of this episode, Zhu Zian couldn't help but feel a little frustrated. He already knew the crux of the matter and had a corresponding solution, but he just couldn't implement it. He could only watch the system continue to rot.
Shi Chengwu saw through his thoughts, and persuaded with a smile: "Zian, at the end of a dynasty, it is often riddled with holes and countless problems. The water transportation is just one of them. And it has not been solved for hundreds of years. As for the problem, you should not expect to be able to coordinate all aspects and let things develop in the direction you expect by issuing a few official documents in the yamen."
Tao Hongfang also persuaded: "The Special Liaison Office can manage many things, but not every case involved will have an ideal result. The main purpose is to maintain communication with the Ming court and try to avoid misunderstandings and conflicts. Shipped to There is no need to blame my own lack of ability for the problem of water transportation that cannot be solved temporarily."
Hearing the two people's comfort, Zhu Zian calmed down a bit, and he clasped his hands and said: "You two are right. From the beginning of taking office, you wanted to make achievements as soon as possible. It was a bit too hasty. We still have to wait for the right time for the water transportation. Only then can we take a radical cure. I will also quote everyone’s opinions and write opinions on how to deal with it later.”
After talking about Zhu Zian's work, everyone quickly shifted the topic to another major event that is currently going on in Hangzhou, which is the arms trade negotiation between Haihan and the shogunate envoy.
Everyone present participated in the activities of visiting Japan, and they were all insiders about the arms trade, so there was no need to keep it secret.And Bai Letong, who was unable to attend today's gathering, was also accompanying his father Bai Kesi to participate in this negotiation.
"Two days ago, Zengshan Zhengli was arranged to go to the mountains in the south of the city to observe the gun drill, but he was very greedy. After shooting the target, the weapons were touched one by one. I really wanted to put them in my pocket immediately. Take it away!" Shi Chengwu talked about the anecdote of taking the shogunate envoys to watch the live ammunition drill, and immediately made everyone laugh.
Although Japan also has the ability to make its own firearms and artillery, its military engineering level is still at a relatively primitive stage, and the performance of its weapons is significantly different from that of Haihan's equipment.As early as on the way back from their visit to Japan, everyone had imagined that live ammunition drills would be used to deter the shogunate envoys, and now it seems that they have indeed received the expected results.
"Then how much does he plan to buy?" Ha Jianyi asked curiously.
Shi Chengwu said: "Then I'm afraid we have to see how much budget the shogunate has prepared for this."
(End of this chapter)