Chapter 2329
Chapter 2329
Chapter 2329
If the crimes claimed by Qian Tiandun are found to be correct, what awaits Jin Shangxian will undoubtedly be a felony that will implicate the nine clans, and his party members in the officialdom will not be spared.Moreover, his rebellious acts will definitely be recorded in the history books, and his infamy will be passed down through the ages. For Jin Shangxian who attaches great importance to his reputation, this may be an extremely unacceptable thing.
Sure enough, after hearing such a blunt threat from Qian Tiandun, Jin Shangxian's expression became very ugly, but he still did not lose control of his emotions because of this stimulation, and still responded as calmly as possible: "General Qian, if you You just want to arrest me and convict me, so you probably won’t spend so much time here talking to me slowly. If you have any other purpose, you might as well just say it.”
Qian Tiandun said: "There is no special purpose. After all, your country is an important ally of our country. Now that such a big incident happened in Seoul, for the sake of diplomatic mutual trust and future development between the two countries, we must know the truth of the matter. "
Jin Shangxian sighed and said: "In any case, the old man has no intention of confronting your country. Everything he did during his tenure was for the prosperity of the country. If he wants to be charged for this, it is difficult for the old man to defend himself. I hope that General Qian will not implicate too many innocent people, especially the officials working in the Liucao Yamen, if these yamen do not operate smoothly, it will not be good for your country's industry here."
What kind of person is Qian Tiandun, how can he soften his heart after hearing him sell a few miserable words, and now he just sneered and said: "The matter has come to this point, Mr. Jin still refuses to tell the truth, it seems that he will not shed tears when he sees the coffin."
Jin Shangxian was startled, thinking that Qian Tiandun was going to use tough methods, but he still refused to let go: "I don't know what General Qian intends to do?"
Qian Tiandun said: "I plan to go to see the king and tell him the conclusion of the current investigation. Lord Jin will come with me. If the king has any questions about the case, Lord Jin can answer on the spot."
Qian Tiandun's move is undoubtedly to put Jin Shangxian on the fire and expose his true face in front of the king.Jin Shangxian can of course defend himself, but he is not sure whether Qian Tiandun has any other fatal evidence besides the fake remains.It would be hopeless to wait until he had tried his best to justify before throwing out conclusive evidence.
Jin Shangxian didn't dare to gamble, because Qian Tiandun had almost touched the edge of the truth, but he hadn't found out the detailed process. It is very likely that the evidence Qian Tiandun had was enough to overthrow him, so he was waiting for a suitable opportunity to let him sit down. true charge.Of course, more importantly, he doesn't think he has no options for retreat, and there is no need to go to the step of confrontation in court.
Jin Shangxian has been dealing with Haihan for a long time. He knows that although his current situation seems to be cornered, there is still a possibility of escape.Since Qian Tiandun is still making excuses for himself, it means that he has not yet made up his mind to arrest him, and there is still room for bargaining.
"General Qian, overturning the table is actually not good for everyone. Maybe we can negotiate a better solution so that the whole thing can have a relatively satisfactory result." Jin Shangxian refused to give up, and continued to persuade Qian Tiandun to change. idea.
Qian Tiandun sneered and said, "I don't know what kind of consummation result Mr. Jin thinks?"
Jin Shangxian felt that the other party's tone seemed to be loose, and he quickly explained: "The culprit in this matter is Manqing, and all the responsibilities are naturally placed on Manqing. Such a deep hatred, future generations of North Korea will not dare to forget each other. Wait until your country If we want to send troops to attack the Qing Dynasty, our country is naturally obliged to send troops to help."
Jin Shangxian actually saw the long-term goal of Haihan in this area quite clearly, which was to continuously attack the Manchu Qing and limit its pace of external expansion.Including the various measures to win over and support North Korea in the past two years, the purpose is actually to deal with the Manchu Qing.
Although Jin Shangxian doesn't quite understand why Haihan, who is located in the south, is so afraid of the Manchus and spends so much time in using troops thousands of miles away from his homeland, but since Haihan's actions are beneficial to the Manchus Of course, Kim Sang-heon is happy to see North Korea coveted by the Qing Dynasty.
As a small country with weak national strength, it is instinctive to seek advantages and avoid disadvantages. However, in terms of North Korea's situation, it is obviously impossible to sit back and enjoy the benefits, and it will inevitably be involved in the flames of war between the two powers.And North Korea seems to have always lacked a sufficient reason to take the initiative to send troops. Even if it was invaded by the Qing army last year, King Li Zhen only wanted to retreat the enemy, not to impose revenge on the Manchus.
But now the solution proposed by Kim Sang-heon is to put the charge of assassinating the king on Man Qing, so that North Korea and Man Qing will become endless enemies in the future, and this may be the situation that Hai Han likes to see .And if Haihan investigates the coup incident thoroughly and digs out all the truth and makes it public to the world, then such an effect will not be achieved.
From this point of view, the suggestion made by Kim Sang-heon seems to indeed make the situation in this area develop in the direction Haihan expected.Perhaps this is the fundamental reason why they thought that as long as they implemented the plan step by step and let Man Qing take the big scapegoat, they would not be liquidated by Hai Han afterwards.
Jin Shangxian knew that when dealing with a smart person like Qian Tiandun, all the bells and whistles would not only be useless, but might actually have the opposite effect, so he gave the answer very directly without explaining too much. I believe that Qian Tiandun's understanding of the regional situation is enough to understand what the solution he said means.
Qian Tiandun did understand his plan, but if it was used to exchange for Jin Shangxian's immunity from guilt, Qian Tiandun felt that the weight of this condition was still not enough.
Haihan's current deployment in the Liaodong region and future long-term strategy in Northeast Asia will require North Korea as a source of resources.And if North Korea can send combat-capable troops to participate in military operations led by Haihan, like Annan and Fujian's Xu family did, it will certainly greatly reduce the pressure on Haihan's army.
And Haihan's main opponent in this area is, of course, the Man Qing who is currently in the limelight.North Korea has been suppressed by the opponent for more than ten years, and has long since lost the courage to resist. If Haihan hadn't sent troops to help last year, it would have completely knelt down by this time.Kim Sang-heon's solution is to completely block North Korea's retreat. This is of course a good thing for Haihan, but the actual combat effectiveness of the North Korean army cannot be expected in a short time.
This also means that the prospect that Kim Sang-heon mentioned will actually have a greatly reduced effect. Whether or not North Korea sends troops will not have any significant effect in the near future.
Based on this view, Qian Tiandun's evaluation of this plan is not too high: "Master Jin, I think you overestimated the role your country's army can play in the war against the Qing Dynasty. , then I don’t think the conditions you offered are enough for us to stop the investigation of the assassination.”
Although Qian Tiandun's statement had a taste of humiliating the North Korean army, but Jin Shangxian was keenly aware of the loosening of the other party's attitude, which was clearly a signal that there was still something to talk about.
"Then I wonder if General Qian has anything to add?" Jin Shangxian decided to hand over the initiative to the other party to see if Qian Tiandun would change his attitude and propose specific terms of exchange.
Qian Tiandun thought for a moment and said: "Considering the actual situation of your country's army, it is necessary to carry out large-scale reorganization training, so that it is possible to substantially improve the combat effectiveness and thus play a role in the war against the Manchu Qing. But if these The army is still under your country's old military system, and I am afraid it will be difficult to achieve the kind of improvement I am talking about."
"Based on this situation, I think that in order for your country's army to play its due role in future military operations, we must let our country take over the wartime command as soon as possible. In addition, strengthening combat readiness training and replacing new weapons and equipment must also rely on arrangements in our country."
"In order to facilitate the implementation of such an arrangement, I think it is necessary to set up a special agency to coordinate and command your country's army. This agency should be connected by our garrison and your country's soldiers Cao Yamen, and be directly responsible to the king, so that there will be Sufficient authority to realize the arrangement I mentioned. What do you think of my solution, Mr. Jin?"
Everyone in Jin Shangxian was dumbfounded. He just wanted to exchange his country's army's willingness to participate in the war in the future, but Qian Tiandun's plan really opened his mouth, and he wanted to take over the command of the army.If this is also agreed, then the command of the country's army will fall into the hands of the Haihan people in the future. How can this protect the family and the country?
Although the Haihan Army also took over the command of the frontline troops during the anti-Qing war last year, it was only a short-term emergency move. What Qian Tiandun wanted at this time was to normalize it. The nature of the recipient is completely different.
As for what Qian Tiandun said about setting up a special agency directly responsible to the king, Jin Shangxian would not be fooled by such rhetoric. It was clearly to allow this agency to bypass the supervision of the imperial court.From now on, as long as this institution acts in the name of the king, the imperial court will have no way to interfere with its decisions.
Jin Shangxian said with a wry smile: "General Qian's plan...is...too unimaginable. It can't guarantee the basic security of the country. I'm afraid I can't agree with it."
Qian Tiandun said sternly: "Lord Jin's words are wrong. Give the command of the army to our country, so that your country can be truly safe. For example, the palace coup that happened this time can be done once and for all in the future. Appeared again."
The corners of Jin Shangxian's mouth twitched when he heard it, he thought to himself what kind of fallacies and heresies, it was shameless.But he cursed in his heart, but he didn't dare to say it out of his mouth, and he was extremely distressed at the moment.
In the previous agreement between the two countries signed when Li Yan ascended the throne, there was also a part involving the military field, but it did not include the radical plan proposed by Qian Tiandun.It is estimated that the Haihan military also felt that such a radical approach would not only have objections from Li Xun, but would also be boycotted by senior North Korean officials.
But not mentioning it at the time does not mean that Haihan did not have such an idea. Qian Tiandun immediately proposed this plan and tried to exert extreme pressure on Jin Shangxian.If Jin Shangxian let go and is willing to help Haihan implement this plan, it will be a surprise.
Jin Shangxian said with a wry smile: "The old man thinks that the feasibility of this plan is too low, and our country's military attache will definitely not agree to such an approach."
Qian Tiandun said disapprovingly: "If someone disagrees, then the military authority should be lifted and replaced. The dozen or so military officers who came back with the king this time just need someone to make room for them to play a role. I think this is A good opportunity for personnel turnover."
Jin Shangxian said: "If the method is so drastic, it may cause a mutiny!"
Qian Tiandun said: "If Mr. Jin is worried about this, it's easy to do. First establish the institution I mentioned, and then this institution will issue orders for the appointment and dismissal of personnel. If there are daring people who launch a mutiny, then our garrison will Get involved directly and remove these stumbling blocks to change!"
Jin Shangxian still refused to give in, and continued to argue: "Then if His Majesty also objects to this..."
"His Majesty the King is a very enlightened person. I think that if Mr. Jin is willing to persuade him to accept this plan with us, the possibility of success will actually be quite high." Qian Tiandun paused and said, "Let's go and persuade the King first. , and then implement this plan, there will be much less opposition.”
"That being said, this matter... this old man still thinks it's inappropriate." Jin Shangxian heard that Qian Tiandun meant to force the overlord to fight hard, but it was useless no matter how reasonable he was, so he could only continue to express his opposition dryly.
"Master Jin, this is not very good." Qian Tiandun shook his head slowly and said, "You want me to propose a solution, then I have proposed it, but you have been pushing back and forth for various reasons and are unwilling to accept it. In fact, you are careful Think about it, if you don't accept this plan, you can only go to court, and then you will lose your hat and become a prisoner. When we propose this plan again, how can anyone in the court dare to speak out against us? Not the same will be implemented, the difference is that you are gone!"
Qian Tiandun almost threw the words "objection is invalid" directly on Jin Shangxian's face, which means that regardless of whether Jin Shangxian is willing to cooperate at the moment, Haihan will forcefully push forward the implementation of this matter.If Jin Shangxian continues to hold objections, then Haihan will undoubtedly have another reason to pull him down.
Of course, the actual operation cannot be as easy as Qian Tiandun said, otherwise this plan would have been proposed when the agreement was signed.But at this time, Qian Tiandun knew that Jin Shangxian had begun to lose his position, so he must seize this opportunity to keep putting pressure on him.
Jin Shangxian was indeed a little confused. Qian Tiandun's plan was definitely not good for North Korea. From the standpoint of an important court minister, he must spare no effort to oppose it and stop Haihan's conspiracy.But if he did so, what awaited him would be his ruin and his family. The Haihan people would continue to push forward with this plan, and the result would still be very bad.
(End of this chapter)
If the crimes claimed by Qian Tiandun are found to be correct, what awaits Jin Shangxian will undoubtedly be a felony that will implicate the nine clans, and his party members in the officialdom will not be spared.Moreover, his rebellious acts will definitely be recorded in the history books, and his infamy will be passed down through the ages. For Jin Shangxian who attaches great importance to his reputation, this may be an extremely unacceptable thing.
Sure enough, after hearing such a blunt threat from Qian Tiandun, Jin Shangxian's expression became very ugly, but he still did not lose control of his emotions because of this stimulation, and still responded as calmly as possible: "General Qian, if you You just want to arrest me and convict me, so you probably won’t spend so much time here talking to me slowly. If you have any other purpose, you might as well just say it.”
Qian Tiandun said: "There is no special purpose. After all, your country is an important ally of our country. Now that such a big incident happened in Seoul, for the sake of diplomatic mutual trust and future development between the two countries, we must know the truth of the matter. "
Jin Shangxian sighed and said: "In any case, the old man has no intention of confronting your country. Everything he did during his tenure was for the prosperity of the country. If he wants to be charged for this, it is difficult for the old man to defend himself. I hope that General Qian will not implicate too many innocent people, especially the officials working in the Liucao Yamen, if these yamen do not operate smoothly, it will not be good for your country's industry here."
What kind of person is Qian Tiandun, how can he soften his heart after hearing him sell a few miserable words, and now he just sneered and said: "The matter has come to this point, Mr. Jin still refuses to tell the truth, it seems that he will not shed tears when he sees the coffin."
Jin Shangxian was startled, thinking that Qian Tiandun was going to use tough methods, but he still refused to let go: "I don't know what General Qian intends to do?"
Qian Tiandun said: "I plan to go to see the king and tell him the conclusion of the current investigation. Lord Jin will come with me. If the king has any questions about the case, Lord Jin can answer on the spot."
Qian Tiandun's move is undoubtedly to put Jin Shangxian on the fire and expose his true face in front of the king.Jin Shangxian can of course defend himself, but he is not sure whether Qian Tiandun has any other fatal evidence besides the fake remains.It would be hopeless to wait until he had tried his best to justify before throwing out conclusive evidence.
Jin Shangxian didn't dare to gamble, because Qian Tiandun had almost touched the edge of the truth, but he hadn't found out the detailed process. It is very likely that the evidence Qian Tiandun had was enough to overthrow him, so he was waiting for a suitable opportunity to let him sit down. true charge.Of course, more importantly, he doesn't think he has no options for retreat, and there is no need to go to the step of confrontation in court.
Jin Shangxian has been dealing with Haihan for a long time. He knows that although his current situation seems to be cornered, there is still a possibility of escape.Since Qian Tiandun is still making excuses for himself, it means that he has not yet made up his mind to arrest him, and there is still room for bargaining.
"General Qian, overturning the table is actually not good for everyone. Maybe we can negotiate a better solution so that the whole thing can have a relatively satisfactory result." Jin Shangxian refused to give up, and continued to persuade Qian Tiandun to change. idea.
Qian Tiandun sneered and said, "I don't know what kind of consummation result Mr. Jin thinks?"
Jin Shangxian felt that the other party's tone seemed to be loose, and he quickly explained: "The culprit in this matter is Manqing, and all the responsibilities are naturally placed on Manqing. Such a deep hatred, future generations of North Korea will not dare to forget each other. Wait until your country If we want to send troops to attack the Qing Dynasty, our country is naturally obliged to send troops to help."
Jin Shangxian actually saw the long-term goal of Haihan in this area quite clearly, which was to continuously attack the Manchu Qing and limit its pace of external expansion.Including the various measures to win over and support North Korea in the past two years, the purpose is actually to deal with the Manchu Qing.
Although Jin Shangxian doesn't quite understand why Haihan, who is located in the south, is so afraid of the Manchus and spends so much time in using troops thousands of miles away from his homeland, but since Haihan's actions are beneficial to the Manchus Of course, Kim Sang-heon is happy to see North Korea coveted by the Qing Dynasty.
As a small country with weak national strength, it is instinctive to seek advantages and avoid disadvantages. However, in terms of North Korea's situation, it is obviously impossible to sit back and enjoy the benefits, and it will inevitably be involved in the flames of war between the two powers.And North Korea seems to have always lacked a sufficient reason to take the initiative to send troops. Even if it was invaded by the Qing army last year, King Li Zhen only wanted to retreat the enemy, not to impose revenge on the Manchus.
But now the solution proposed by Kim Sang-heon is to put the charge of assassinating the king on Man Qing, so that North Korea and Man Qing will become endless enemies in the future, and this may be the situation that Hai Han likes to see .And if Haihan investigates the coup incident thoroughly and digs out all the truth and makes it public to the world, then such an effect will not be achieved.
From this point of view, the suggestion made by Kim Sang-heon seems to indeed make the situation in this area develop in the direction Haihan expected.Perhaps this is the fundamental reason why they thought that as long as they implemented the plan step by step and let Man Qing take the big scapegoat, they would not be liquidated by Hai Han afterwards.
Jin Shangxian knew that when dealing with a smart person like Qian Tiandun, all the bells and whistles would not only be useless, but might actually have the opposite effect, so he gave the answer very directly without explaining too much. I believe that Qian Tiandun's understanding of the regional situation is enough to understand what the solution he said means.
Qian Tiandun did understand his plan, but if it was used to exchange for Jin Shangxian's immunity from guilt, Qian Tiandun felt that the weight of this condition was still not enough.
Haihan's current deployment in the Liaodong region and future long-term strategy in Northeast Asia will require North Korea as a source of resources.And if North Korea can send combat-capable troops to participate in military operations led by Haihan, like Annan and Fujian's Xu family did, it will certainly greatly reduce the pressure on Haihan's army.
And Haihan's main opponent in this area is, of course, the Man Qing who is currently in the limelight.North Korea has been suppressed by the opponent for more than ten years, and has long since lost the courage to resist. If Haihan hadn't sent troops to help last year, it would have completely knelt down by this time.Kim Sang-heon's solution is to completely block North Korea's retreat. This is of course a good thing for Haihan, but the actual combat effectiveness of the North Korean army cannot be expected in a short time.
This also means that the prospect that Kim Sang-heon mentioned will actually have a greatly reduced effect. Whether or not North Korea sends troops will not have any significant effect in the near future.
Based on this view, Qian Tiandun's evaluation of this plan is not too high: "Master Jin, I think you overestimated the role your country's army can play in the war against the Qing Dynasty. , then I don’t think the conditions you offered are enough for us to stop the investigation of the assassination.”
Although Qian Tiandun's statement had a taste of humiliating the North Korean army, but Jin Shangxian was keenly aware of the loosening of the other party's attitude, which was clearly a signal that there was still something to talk about.
"Then I wonder if General Qian has anything to add?" Jin Shangxian decided to hand over the initiative to the other party to see if Qian Tiandun would change his attitude and propose specific terms of exchange.
Qian Tiandun thought for a moment and said: "Considering the actual situation of your country's army, it is necessary to carry out large-scale reorganization training, so that it is possible to substantially improve the combat effectiveness and thus play a role in the war against the Manchu Qing. But if these The army is still under your country's old military system, and I am afraid it will be difficult to achieve the kind of improvement I am talking about."
"Based on this situation, I think that in order for your country's army to play its due role in future military operations, we must let our country take over the wartime command as soon as possible. In addition, strengthening combat readiness training and replacing new weapons and equipment must also rely on arrangements in our country."
"In order to facilitate the implementation of such an arrangement, I think it is necessary to set up a special agency to coordinate and command your country's army. This agency should be connected by our garrison and your country's soldiers Cao Yamen, and be directly responsible to the king, so that there will be Sufficient authority to realize the arrangement I mentioned. What do you think of my solution, Mr. Jin?"
Everyone in Jin Shangxian was dumbfounded. He just wanted to exchange his country's army's willingness to participate in the war in the future, but Qian Tiandun's plan really opened his mouth, and he wanted to take over the command of the army.If this is also agreed, then the command of the country's army will fall into the hands of the Haihan people in the future. How can this protect the family and the country?
Although the Haihan Army also took over the command of the frontline troops during the anti-Qing war last year, it was only a short-term emergency move. What Qian Tiandun wanted at this time was to normalize it. The nature of the recipient is completely different.
As for what Qian Tiandun said about setting up a special agency directly responsible to the king, Jin Shangxian would not be fooled by such rhetoric. It was clearly to allow this agency to bypass the supervision of the imperial court.From now on, as long as this institution acts in the name of the king, the imperial court will have no way to interfere with its decisions.
Jin Shangxian said with a wry smile: "General Qian's plan...is...too unimaginable. It can't guarantee the basic security of the country. I'm afraid I can't agree with it."
Qian Tiandun said sternly: "Lord Jin's words are wrong. Give the command of the army to our country, so that your country can be truly safe. For example, the palace coup that happened this time can be done once and for all in the future. Appeared again."
The corners of Jin Shangxian's mouth twitched when he heard it, he thought to himself what kind of fallacies and heresies, it was shameless.But he cursed in his heart, but he didn't dare to say it out of his mouth, and he was extremely distressed at the moment.
In the previous agreement between the two countries signed when Li Yan ascended the throne, there was also a part involving the military field, but it did not include the radical plan proposed by Qian Tiandun.It is estimated that the Haihan military also felt that such a radical approach would not only have objections from Li Xun, but would also be boycotted by senior North Korean officials.
But not mentioning it at the time does not mean that Haihan did not have such an idea. Qian Tiandun immediately proposed this plan and tried to exert extreme pressure on Jin Shangxian.If Jin Shangxian let go and is willing to help Haihan implement this plan, it will be a surprise.
Jin Shangxian said with a wry smile: "The old man thinks that the feasibility of this plan is too low, and our country's military attache will definitely not agree to such an approach."
Qian Tiandun said disapprovingly: "If someone disagrees, then the military authority should be lifted and replaced. The dozen or so military officers who came back with the king this time just need someone to make room for them to play a role. I think this is A good opportunity for personnel turnover."
Jin Shangxian said: "If the method is so drastic, it may cause a mutiny!"
Qian Tiandun said: "If Mr. Jin is worried about this, it's easy to do. First establish the institution I mentioned, and then this institution will issue orders for the appointment and dismissal of personnel. If there are daring people who launch a mutiny, then our garrison will Get involved directly and remove these stumbling blocks to change!"
Jin Shangxian still refused to give in, and continued to argue: "Then if His Majesty also objects to this..."
"His Majesty the King is a very enlightened person. I think that if Mr. Jin is willing to persuade him to accept this plan with us, the possibility of success will actually be quite high." Qian Tiandun paused and said, "Let's go and persuade the King first. , and then implement this plan, there will be much less opposition.”
"That being said, this matter... this old man still thinks it's inappropriate." Jin Shangxian heard that Qian Tiandun meant to force the overlord to fight hard, but it was useless no matter how reasonable he was, so he could only continue to express his opposition dryly.
"Master Jin, this is not very good." Qian Tiandun shook his head slowly and said, "You want me to propose a solution, then I have proposed it, but you have been pushing back and forth for various reasons and are unwilling to accept it. In fact, you are careful Think about it, if you don't accept this plan, you can only go to court, and then you will lose your hat and become a prisoner. When we propose this plan again, how can anyone in the court dare to speak out against us? Not the same will be implemented, the difference is that you are gone!"
Qian Tiandun almost threw the words "objection is invalid" directly on Jin Shangxian's face, which means that regardless of whether Jin Shangxian is willing to cooperate at the moment, Haihan will forcefully push forward the implementation of this matter.If Jin Shangxian continues to hold objections, then Haihan will undoubtedly have another reason to pull him down.
Of course, the actual operation cannot be as easy as Qian Tiandun said, otherwise this plan would have been proposed when the agreement was signed.But at this time, Qian Tiandun knew that Jin Shangxian had begun to lose his position, so he must seize this opportunity to keep putting pressure on him.
Jin Shangxian was indeed a little confused. Qian Tiandun's plan was definitely not good for North Korea. From the standpoint of an important court minister, he must spare no effort to oppose it and stop Haihan's conspiracy.But if he did so, what awaited him would be his ruin and his family. The Haihan people would continue to push forward with this plan, and the result would still be very bad.
(End of this chapter)